@rajk999 saidAs I said you speak out of both sides of your mouth, you present scripture for correcting others and deny it is the truth of God. Deceiver and hypocrite, to denounce using scriptures and condemn others who actually acknowledge them as from God. The only thing you do is show how a$$ backwards you and your doctrine is, you don’t believe that which you go to for truth.
All that animosity because I do not subscribe to your church doctrine, neither do I condone worship of the bible.
Maybe when you grow some balls you will promote the teachings of Christ, because right now you are ashamed of His teachings and you deny His commandments. You have never quoted what this means and to tell people to be peacelovers, and to be meek and mercifu ...[text shortened]... u falsely, for my sake.
(Matthew 5:3-11 KJV) [/i]
You quote a bunch of mouthworshipping garbage
@indonesia-phil saidKellyJay, a discursive coward who cannot even field straightforward questions and comments about the things he claims about our world, is up on his high horse: there are only a couple of people he can still bring himself to talk to. At some point he'll probably start blanking Rajk999 out too.
Blimey, bit of a theological scrap going on here, and there was I thinking that we atheists were the bad guys.
I think we're supposed to want to emulate him and admire the effect his beliefs have had on his character. Why on Earth would anyone look at his mindmap and behaviour and think: gosh, gimme some of whatever makes him tick?
@rajk999 saidSo are these direct words of Christ as reported by John, which you ignore:
For real ... and those words are direct words of Christ as reported by John, but churches do not preach those doctrines.
“Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:”
(John 11:25)
“And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.”
(John 6:40)
“I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.”
(John 8:24)
What do you think Jesus meant when He said this?
“And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it;
“For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.”
(Matthew 26:27-28)
@plantermoo saidWhat motivates Christians to taunt each other like this by engaging in futile intellectual duels which consist of quoting a bit of Scripture and challenging each other to interpret it?
So are these direct words of Christ as reported by John, which you ignore:
“Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:”
(John 11:25)
“And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up a ...[text shortened]... blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.”
(Matthew 26:27-28)
Atheists don't do this, you know. Atheists don't go around quoting some bit of Bertrand Russell or Christopher Hitchens and accusing each other of either ignoring it or incorrectly interpreting it.
What a simply bizarre lot you are.
@fmf saidHe says of himself that his faith is what keeps him from doing bad things (or words to that effect), and I have no reason to doubt that, so Christianity may indeed have had a salubrious effect on his character (relative to what his character might be without it). Moreover, he is not alone; there are quite a lot of people who cannot do right and forbear wrong unless there is some kind of carrot-&-stick protocol in operation, psychologically speaking. If religion is all that keeps such people from running amok in the streets with machetes, I am favour of them holding onto it.
I think we're supposed to want to emulate him and admire the effect his beliefs have had on his character. Why on Earth would anyone look at his mindmap and behaviour and think: gosh, gimme some of whatever makes him tick?
However, I don't subscribe to the mythology or think the associated dogma would have a salubrious effect on my character, nor do I need the threat of a lake of fire to refrain from doing wrong.
@rajk999 saidFrom a source you denounce hypocrite, you apply standards to others you reject. Simply acknowledging it is scripture and should be followed only highlights how far you are from truth when you reject the Bible as the written Word of God.
For real ... and those words are direct words of Christ as reported by John, but churches do not preach those doctrines.
You play both sides of the fence but cheer up a Anti-Christ is on your side,
@moonbus saidBertrand Russell and Christopher Hitchens aren’t the Word of God.
What motivates Christians to taunt each other like this by engaging in futile intellectual duels which consist of quoting a bit of Scripture and challenging each other to interpret it?
Atheists don't do this, you know. Atheists don't go around quoting some bit of Bertrand Russell or Christopher Hitchens and accusing each other of either ignoring it or incorrectly interpreting it.
What a simply bizarre lot you are.