@rajk999 saidThere are those who worship religion, and those who worship God. Those who think there is only one right way to worship God are the former. God will decide which ones are pleasing to Him.
There are basically two types of Christians -
- the ones who go to church and are taught a doctrine of professing faith alone and that is sufficient for eternal life.
- the ones who take to heart the teachings of Christ pertaining to good works, righteousness, love for ones neighbour as the sole road to eternal life.
You decide which one of these two groups are pleasing to God.
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@plantermoo saidTypical, predictable, misunderstanding of the point I made. I'm not comparing Russell to God. I'm comparing Christians to atheists. Atheists don't go around challenging each other to prove they are the real McCoy. Christians do.
Bertrand Russell and Christopher Hitchens aren’t the Word of God.
@plantermoo saidWhat motivates Christians to misinterpret every attempt to rationally analyze their religion as a personal affront against themselves? It's not like when someone tries to rationally analyze the policies of the Republican or Democratic Party, that each Republican or Democrat feels personally attacked. But Christians do.
Self-righteous, much?
What motivates Christians to misinterpret every attempt to rationally analyze their religion as a personal affront against GOD HIMSELF? The God isn't the religion, you know.
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@medullah saidWhen a census is carried out there is no requirement to return to ones place of birth. (Either then or now). You do it in the place you are living in at the time. (It was a clumsy attempt by the Gospel writers to put Jesus in the right location to fulfil the prophecy).
Are you saying that there was no census around the time of Juesus birth?
I was suggesting that tha Mark was referring to Bill Gates, I'm merely suggesting that he is effectively an enabler. I've followed this line for some years including numerous interviews and presntations that he has given and I would suggest this to you (it's almost getting like a wwg game) ;- the ma ...[text shortened]... jewlry) called a quantum tatoo. Dismis me if you wish Sir, but please don't forget the conversation.
The quantum tattoo thing is an interesting idea, but wasted I'm afraid on a person who doesn't view the Bible as anything significant.
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@moonbus saidJesus said He is the Way, Truth, and Life no one comes to God but through Him, without Christ, everything else is less than enough. You can go to God any way you want to, but if you don't do it the way God set up through Jesus on the cross dying for our sins to be our redeemer by rising again, you will reach a dead end.
There are those who worship religion, and those who worship God. Those who think there is only one right way to worship God are the former. God will decide which ones are pleasing to Him.
It is either Jesus making us righteous before God or our attempts to be righteous before God, He gives us His mercy by not giving us what we deserve. He gives us His grace by giving us what we don't deserve due to His love for us, not our ability to get it right before Him on our own.
@moonbus saidHow would an atheist go about proving he is “the real McCoy?” That doesn’t make any sense.
Typical, predictable, misunderstanding of the point I made. I'm not comparing Russell to God. I'm comparing Christians to atheists. Atheists don't go around challenging each other to prove they are the real McCoy. Christians do.
@plantermoo saidThey have nothing, they promote nothing, so there is nothing to prove. The trouble is that they typically suggest nothing is the cause of everything, or that there is nothing behind everything from beginning to end as if nothing were something that could do anything.
How would an atheist go about proving he is “the real McCoy?” That doesn’t make any sense.
@fmf saidObviously not to your first question.
Do you think "incorrect" thoughts ~ by which I mean "incorrect" according to you ~ in the mind of a follower of Jesus can result in damnation? Do you believe different interpretations have different consequences in terms of the "salvation" of a follower of Jesus?
And depends on the verse(s) in regard to your second question. If you’re referring to or including verses that speak to salvation and eternal life, then Yes. Otherwise, No.
@kellyjay saidIn addition to nothing creating everything, they also believe that non-life created life, order and complexity naturally arose from chaos and simplicity, and consciousness came from physical matter.
They have nothing, they promote nothing, so there is nothing to prove. The trouble is that they typically suggest nothing is the cause of everything, or that there is nothing behind everything from beginning to end as if nothing were something that could do anything.
And they claim Jesus Christ’s miracles are not believable lol
@plantermoo saidHow would an atheist go about proving he is “the real McCoy?”
How would an atheist go about proving he is “the real McCoy?” That doesn’t make any sense.
There is no "real McCoy" factor among atheists but one who converts to Islam or Hinduism or Christianity late in life may well have had unexplored agnostic leanings during his or her lifetime.
@plantermoo saidIf by "they" you are referring to atheists, then I think your sweeping generalization about what they supposedly believe is too sweeping.
In addition to nothing creating everything, they also believe that non-life created life, order and complexity naturally arose from chaos and simplicity, and consciousness came from physical matter.
