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@fmf saidI actually want to talk about the thing I'm talking about.
It seems you don't want to address what I am putting to you and asking you.
@fmf saidI actually want to talk about the thing I'm talking about.
It seems you don't want to address what I am putting to you and asking you.
@kellyjay saidWhat about addressing what FMF has put to you.
I actually want to talk about the thing I'm talking about.
@kellyjay saidBut I AM talking to you about the thing you are talking about.
I actually want to talk about the thing I'm talking about.
@divegeester saidWhat about them? If he wants to talk about them, he can.
What about addressing what FMF has put to you.
@fmf saidI said unless we agree that mindlessness can not bring about the universe and life, discussions about who is premature. Once we acknowledge the necessity then it becomes something required. If the necessity of a creator is rejected, who cares how many names are floated, all are rejected out of hand.
But I AM talking to you about the thing you are talking about.
@kellyjay saidStop pouting kellyjay, you’re morphing into sonship.
What about them? If he wants to talk about them, he can.
@kellyjay saidBut nobody knows for certain, so your point is moot.
I said unless we agree that mindlessness can not bring about the universe and life, discussions about who is premature. Once we acknowledge the necessity then it becomes something required. If the necessity of a creator is rejected, who cares how many names are floated, all are rejected out of hand.
@divegeester saidIs certainty required for you?
But nobody knows for certain, so your point is moot.
@kellyjay saidTo whom are you talking then? Or is your posting performative?
I actually want to talk about the thing I'm talking about.
@kellyjay saidMaybe a creator entity of some kind is the 'cause' of the universe, I accept the possibility, but why must we anthropomorphize this entity?
I said unless we agree that mindlessness can not bring about the universe and life, discussions about who is premature. Once we acknowledge the necessity then it becomes something required. If the necessity of a creator is rejected, who cares how many names are floated, all are rejected out of hand.
@fmf saidWhy would it be just a possibility there is anything that leads you to believe otherwise?
Maybe a creator entity of some kind is the 'cause' of the universe, I accept the possibility, but why must we anthropomorphize this entity?
@kellyjay saidBelieve otherwise...?
Why would it be just a possibility there is anything that leads you to believe otherwise?
@kellyjay saidWhy do you feel we must anthropomorphize a creator entity if there is one?
I said unless we agree that mindlessness can not bring about the universe and life, discussions about who is premature. Once we acknowledge the necessity then it becomes something required. If the necessity of a creator is rejected, who cares how many names are floated, all are rejected out of hand.
@kellyjay saidWell, you've answered my question without intending to answer it, so I'll leave it there. As a final word, though, if science has only 50% of the answer to 'the big questions', or only 10%, or only 1%, then it's 50% or 10% or 1% more than your non - evidential, non - questioning belief in a mythological creator entity will ever have.
I have asked you for some specifics; what scientific evidence do you have? With
respect to evolution, even if true, it doesn't solve anything for you; it is still a
process doing highly complex work, and if true, does that reflect something
mindless or designed? Moreover, evolution is a process that requires life to already
exist, it doesn't address the beginning where t ...[text shortened]... and the rest of the universe setup in
such a way that life could happen. Mindless dumb luck or God?
@fmf saidYour not answering mine, it’s a binary choice meaningless did it all, or intent. To saying it is only possible is not even addressing the question, it is only acknowledging the question is a question.
Believe otherwise...?
Are you not reading my posts?