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@kellyjay saidwe were made in God's image
You have it backward; we were made in God's image; unless you make up your own God, we are not making Him into our image.
It is you who is working backwards: from the God figure of the ancient Hebrew folklore that you happen to believe in, backwards to a subjective certainty about an "unknowable" - but definitely humanlike - creator entity that you sincerely believe has supposedly communicated with you - through Iron Age people - with regard to how he has supposedly anthropomorphized himself by supposedly making you "in his image".
@fmf saidThe truth about our beginnings matter if there is no creator you have a valid explanation. So with what we see around us does it all seem to you like blind, indifferent, mindless, goalless, happenstance put in play the universe with all of the material and immaterial pieces of it working to support the universe itself and life?
we were made in God's image
It is you who is working backwards: from the God figure of the ancient Hebrew folklore that you happen to believe in, backwards to a subjective certainty about an "unknowable" - but definitely humanlike - creator entity that you sincerely believe has supposedly communicated with you - through Iron Age people - with regard to how he has supposedly anthropomorphized himself by supposedly making you "in his image".
The age of the text doesn’t add to or take away from the truth in it, truth doesn’t change with time.
@kellyjay saidAs I have stated many times before, I am totally open to the idea that a creator entity of some kind is the cause of the universe. But, unlike you, I don't see why such an entity must be anthropomorphized?
So with what we see around us does it all seem to you like blind, indifferent, mindless, goalless, happenstance put in play the universe with all of the material and immaterial pieces of it working to support the universe itself and life?
@kellyjay saidThis is interesting thing for you to say.
The age of the text doesn’t add to or take away from the truth in it, truth doesn’t change with time.
I have lost count of how many times you have argued that the number of books and writers and the age of the text is what makes you think its claims about the supernatural are true.
@kellyjay saidWell, all you and I can do is to speculate about whatever truths that pertain to such a creator entity [assuming there is one]. I have read tens of thousands of your posts and I find no credible reason to beleve that this entity has communicated with you in any way.
The age of the text doesn’t add to or take away from the truth in it, truth doesn’t change with time.
-Removed-What is your own answer, and why?
Also, if God as the Holy Spirit inspired Paul to write of works and faith, then are you not dodging [in your own words "avoiding"] something or Someone rather fundamental by swerving toward a "more generic" principle in order to make whatever petty little Earthbound point you are so proudly planning to make?
@fmf saidYes, and? Time does not change the truth so saying something was written or said a long time ago doesn’t affect either, truth will remain what it is regardless of the passage of time.
This is interesting thing for you to say.
I have lost count of how many times you have argued that the number of books and writers and the age of the text is what makes you think its claims about the supernatural are true.
@kellyjay saidAnd... you yourself, over the years here, have cited the AGE of ancient Hebrew literature as evidence of its veracity. Now, because your conversional needs are different, you are saying the opposite of what you usually say.
Yes, and? Time does not change the truth so saying something was written or said a long time ago doesn’t affect either, truth will remain what it is regardless of the passage of time.
@fmf saidThat sounds like reverse-anthropomorphism, if you ask me.
we were made in God's image
It is you who is working backwards: from the God figure of the ancient Hebrew folklore that you happen to believe in, backwards to a subjective certainty about an "unknowable" - but definitely humanlike - creator entity that you sincerely believe has supposedly communicated with you - through Iron Age people - with regard to how he has supposedly anthropomorphized himself by supposedly making you "in his image".