Good behaviours vs beliefs

@fmf said
What "hatred"?

Asking if this the case

@fmf said
If you think it's pointless, don't do it.

Your motives then. I feel sorry for you, and your in my prayers.

@mike69

Abide, abide, abide. 😉

@kevin-eleven said
Does petty, localized blabbing and interrogation of others hold more value for your harsh little transitory ego than the Sublime Light of Christ?

Go to bed and sleep it off.

@mike69 said
Asking if this the case

You mean you were 'just asking' a Tucker Carlson type question?

@mike69 said
Your motives then. I feel sorry for you, and your in my prayers.

Which of my motives makes you feel sorry for me? Remember, it is you who is suggesting that debate / discussion / disagreement is "pointless", not me.

@fmf said
All we are doing here is sharing our personal perspectives, KellyJay. In the course of doing that, it's hardly surprising that we disagree over things. What is it you want me to do, agree with your opinions, is that what you're on about?

As I said, you do more than that; you judge everyone else's opinion marginalizing
them, making them no more than just an opinion, avoiding the context of the
subject matter truthfulness, instead focusing on the speaker as this very statement
of yours does yet again. If we discussed the points of disagreement, that would be
one thing, but to say that is your opinion as if that is an answer to anything said, is
to discuss the speaker, not the content, as you do continually.

You also don't hold yourself to that standard, because you declare with certainty
absolutes, telling everyone what they can and cannot know.

@kellyjay said
As I said, you do more than that; you judge everyone else's opinion marginalizing
them, making them no more than just an opinion, avoiding the context of the
subject matter truthfulness, instead focusing on the speaker as this very statement
of yours does yet again.

We all share our perspectives and we consider and evaluate them; that is the nature of a discussion forum.

I do not avoid the "truthfulness" of anything; you are being silly.

If you feel you are "marginalized", so be it; that's a matter for you.

I understand - and do not object to - how you are very determinedly trying to personalize the discussion, but it's more than a little ironic [as well as hypocritical] that you wrap up doing so by complaining about "focusing on the speaker".

@kellyjay said
You also don't hold yourself to that standard, because you declare with certainty
absolutes, telling everyone what they can and cannot know.

I hold myself to my own standard which is the same standard that I expect from others. I am confident about the things I propagate. I accept that my opinions are subjective. I do not claim they are "absolute" truths. It's as if you are pretending not to have read any of my posts.

@kellyjay said
If we discussed the points of disagreement, that would be
one thing, but to say that is your opinion as if that is an answer to anything said, is
to discuss the speaker, not the content, as you do continually.

We do discuss the points of disagreement, or at least we were doing so until you bailed out - a month or two ago - and went into this current mode you are in, where you are pretending that talking about my supposed personal shortcomings INSTEAD of discussing the points of disagreement will be disguised by your incessant exhibitions of manufactured dudgeon and umbrage.

@fmf said
We do discuss the points of disagreement, or at least we were doing so until you bailed out - a month or two ago - and went into this current mode you are in, where you are pretending that talking about my supposed personal shortcomings INSTEAD of discussing the points of disagreement will be disguised by your incessant exhibitions of manufactured dudgeon and umbrage.

Can you avoid saying that is just an opinion, or that is just faith speech, or all of your other marginalizing verbiage and just stay on topic?

@kellyjay said
Can you avoid saying that is just an opinion, or that is just faith speech, or all of your other marginalizing verbiage and just stay on topic?

The problem is, KellyJay, that your certainty that your opinions are "absolute truths" is not evidence that supports your claims. Your sincerity is not evidence. Your earnestness is not evidence.

The ONLY posts of yours that I refer to as slabs of generic faith speech are the ones where, INSTEAD of tackling an observation or question or opinion head-on, you just type a load of stuff about what you believe that doesn't address the post you are replying to and then you pretend that it does. When you resort to rhetorical gimmicks of this kind, it will be called out.

As I say, if, in the course of propagating your theist ideology, you feel "belittled" or "marginalized" because of the difficulty you have defending or explaining your stances, then that is a matter for you, not me.

@fmf said
The problem is, KellyJay, that your certainty that your opinions are "absolute truths" is not evidence that supports your claims. Your sincerity is not evidence. Your earnestness is not evidence.

The ONLY posts of yours that I refer to as slabs of generic faith speech are the ones where, INSTEAD of tackling an observation or question or opinion head-on, you just ...[text shortened]... the difficulty you have defending or explaining your stances, then that is a matter for you, not me.

Thank you for proving my point.

@kellyjay said
Thank you for proving my point.

I am just responding to your self-pitying, evasive nonsense.

@fmf said
I am just responding to your self-pitying, evasive nonsense.

That is your normal pattern, just as I said.