When you talk to your neighbours about Jesus and how he will be overseeing them being burnt in hell for eternity if they don’t repent and love him… what kind of responses do you get?
Kellyjay…?
Fourth time of asking.
When you talk to your neighbours about Jesus and how he will be overseeing them being burnt in hell for eternity if they don’t repent and love him… what kind of responses do you get?
@kellyjaysaid You are making a very definitive claim about all we know!
Well, if it were an objective fact that I was going to be tortured in burning flames for eternity, then you would simply demonstrate the truth of it to me.
But you can't, can you? Your faith - about rewards and punishments for believing/not-believing in your particular God figure - is just that: faith.
And faith is a set of interlocking subjective beliefs about something you may well be certain about but you cannot demonstrate the truth of, small T or capital T.
@fmfsaid Well, if it were an objective fact that I was going to be tortured in burning flames for eternity, then you would simply demonstrate the truth of it to me.
But you can't, can you? Your faith - about rewards and punishments for believing/not-believing in your particular God figure - is just that: faith.
And faith is a set of interlocking subjective beliefs about something you may well be certain about but you cannot demonstrate the truth of, small T or capital T.
Oh, when you talk about it all, it is factual, no one can know anything about the supernatural except what you tell us.
@kellyjaysaid Oh, when you talk about it all, it is factual, no one can know anything about the supernatural except what you tell us.
Don't be puerile. We're BOTH just sharing our subjective opinions. I haven't denied that your faith is real and that you are being earnest. Having said that, you are using the word "know" in a propagandizing way. So, then, what do you think you achieve, discourse-wise, when you give truth a capital T?
@fmfsaid Don't be puerile. We're BOTH just sharing our subjective opinions. I haven't denied that your faith is real and that you are being earnest. Having said that, you are using the word "know" in a propagandizing way. So, then, what do you think you achieve, discourse-wise, when you give truth a capital T?
There is the only truth, and that which isn't, you can put T on it, or no, it doesn't matter.
@kellyjaysaid There is the only truth, and that which isn't, you can put T on it, or no, it doesn't matter.
Kellyjay…?
Fifth time of asking.
When you talk to your neighbours about Jesus and how he will be overseeing them being burnt in hell for eternity if they don’t repent and love him… what kind of responses do you get?
When you talk to your neighbours about Jesus and how he will be overseeing them being burnt in hell for eternity if they don’t repent and love him… what kind of responses do you get?
You see how this works, I answered you, you keep asking as if I never did, so it is
meaningless to answer you; you don't take answers for answers.
@kellyjaysaid You see how this works, I answered you, you keep asking as if I never did, so it is
meaningless to answer you; you don't take answers for answers.
Name the page where you specifically answered the question, just the page.
@KingDavid403 Ok, the Koran addresses messianic prophecy? Divinely inspired thought ended after the last disciples had recorded from firsthand account. Sure, if they have an alternate view then it's not setting the record straight.
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