@indonesia-phil saidI agree. However, I think there can be situations ~ for instance, where there are power relations ~ where trust does not "work both ways".
Trust has to be earned, it's part of the way that we distinguish our friends from our acquaintances, and actually it works both ways.
@fmf saidI am sorry if I have bothered you, bruv!
No, I just recall some of them.
One thing you could do to help diminish the bad feels is to let things go and relax a bit.
Everything is more joyful to the easy going.
The French translation of Matthew 5:5 is BLESSED ARE THE DEBONNAIRE
This helped me understand the passage more.
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@philokalia saidYou haven't. But your sanctimony and hypocrisy are interesting.
I am sorry if I have bothered you, bruv!
@philokalia saidThis is advice you should perhaps heed yourself. Further indication of your particular brand of hypocrisy, I think.
One thing you could do to help diminish the bad feels is to let things go and relax a bit.
I think that you and I both make mistakes in our courtesy and that this has perhaps been compounded over the years, at times resulting in us being mutually antagonistic, which is regrettable.
I may ignore some of your content but... I want yuo to know that it is in hopes of avoiding antagonism and also because of time constraints.
@philokalia saidI think it is misleading to characterize anything going on here as "mutual".
I think that you and I both make mistakes in our courtesy and that this has perhaps been compounded over the years, at times resulting in us being mutually antagonistic, which is regrettable.
I may ignore some of your content but... I want yuo to know that it is in hopes of avoiding antagonism and also because of time constraints.
I think you are a hypocrite. While I stand up to abusive, unprincipled and rude posters here, you endorse them.
You enjoy being personally insulting and/or encouraging or singling out for praise insulting posters, while I do not reply in kind.
I think you may not even be able to recognize how much of a hypocrite you are.
Do you think I am being disrespectful?
@fmf saidI do not know what your motives are but you are an adult and should probably try to be a bit more....
I think it is misleading to characterize anything going on here as "mutual".
I think you are a hypocrite. While I stand up to abusive, unprincipled and rude posters here, you endorse them.
You enjoy being personally insulting and/or encouraging or singling out for praise insulting posters, while I do not reply in kind.
I think you may not even be able to recognize how much of a hypocrite you are.
Do you think I am being disrespectful?
charitable in your view of others, particularly when they are ready to extend the olive branch.
You know, judging by the downvotes that you received in the thread Pete started, and the upvotes that he received, it would seem that your posting style is not that appreciated. The same was true when I started a thread that was about how the interrogative tone that you took was not ideal and was generally bad for the forum -- I got a lot of upvotes.
So, I think you would benefit from criticism of your posting style and also knowing that a significant amount of posters actively dislike your style and how you appraoch things.
It isn't a pleasant topic and I do not want to dwell on it, but I think that your post showed that you are out of touch with what the bulk of people think of your posts.
@philokalia saidPerhaps the thumbs down were from some of the abusive drunks and hypocrites that you see as being the forum's "great posters".
You know, judging by the downvotes that you received in the thread Pete started, and the upvotes that he received, it would seem that your posting style is not that appreciated.
@philokalia saidIf you think earning the "appreciation" of the "bulk of people" who happen to have accumulated in this little cranny is something you aspire to, go for it. If you think that being "in touch" in that particular way - with them in particular - is a good thing, again, you go for it. Thanks for the advice.
It isn't a pleasant topic and I do not want to dwell on it, but I think that your post showed that you are out of touch with what the bulk of people think of your posts.
@philokalia saidPerhaps it means whatever you went on about ~ complaining about me, presumably ~ was validated. What did you get? Three or four thumbs up? Five maybe? What did I get? One? Three? None, even? If it makes you feel you were validated, good for you.
The same was true when I started a thread that was about how the interrogative tone that you took was not ideal and was generally bad for the forum -- I got a lot of upvotes.
Well, you know, crowds do make the wrong decision sometimes.
But it is also true that it is good to appeal to others socially.
It's one thing to not follow the crowd when they are making an error in values...
But to not follow the crowd when we are talking about issues of courtesy and treating others the way that they wish to be treated, then that is something else.