@philokalia saidAs a matter of interest, how much dreary, disrespectful browbeating do you think is the appropriate amount for you to dish out to people in order to try to make them post in a way you deem is respectful?
Even those who are disrespectful should be thought of as respect worthy.
@philokalia saidi thought about equating trust with respect
All men are created in the image of God, and so I think it would make sense to simply respect everyone.
Even those who are disrespectful should be thought of as respect worthy.
Certainly, you will generally not solve the problem through now disrespecting them.
but
there's too much difference between the two
@fmf saidI think it is good to criticize adults.
As a matter of interest, how much dreary, disrespectful browbeating do you think is the appropriate amount for you to dish out to people in order to try to make them post in a way you deem is respectful?
If someone is being rude, it makes sense to tell them that they are being rude.
@rookie54 saidIn his frequent highly personalized efforts to make me "thought of as respect-worthy", he has claimed that I was "never socialized properly", that I have some "literal cognitive disorder", that my personal beliefs are "worthless, schoolboy trash", that I am "spineless and cowardly", and so on and so forth, ad nauseam, despite the fact I have never said anything remotely as disrespectful as that to him or to anyone else here ~ aside from the word "cowardly", which I may have used a few times.
@FMF
too subtle
I am just curious about how and why he fashions himself as a poster we can all trust to lecture me or anybody on "respect"?
Yes, perhaps I am being too subtle.
@philokalia saidBut we know what kind of forum you wish this to be by looking at the kind of posters you endorse and encourage, none of whom you accuse of being "rude".
If someone is being rude, it makes sense to tell them that they are being rude.
-Removed-I think trusting new people or restoring trust in people who have let you down in some serious way is a process during which the degree of trust deepens or extends or pertains to increasingly precious or vulnerable areas of one's life.
I don't think it is something one can switch on without such a process although there may well be a specific moment in time when you decide to trust someone.
@fmf saidLOL, have you literally documented the barbs I've exchanged with you over these years?
In his frequent highly personalized efforts to make me "thought of as respect-worthy", he has claimed that I was "never socialized properly", that I have some "literal cognitive disorder", that my personal beliefs are "worthless, schoolboy trash", that I am "spineless and cowardly", and so on and so forth, ad nauseam, despite the fact I have never said anything remotely as disres ...[text shortened]... ster we can all trust to lecture me or anybody on "respect"?
Yes, perhaps I am being too subtle.
Do you have some file running on me?
Or do you just take copious mental notes of all o the things people have ever said that pertain to you?
@fmf saidOh no, we have to be honest -- Romans was a very rude guy.
But we know what kind of forum you wish this to be by looking at the kind of posters you endorse and encourage, none of whom you accuse of being "rude".
But it was entertaining and fun while it lasted.
A base pleasure. Something I've been guilty of.
@philokalia saidNo, I just recall some of them.
LOL, have you literally documented the barbs I've exchanged with you over these years?
@philokalia saidPerhaps you are a hypocrite then.
Oh no, we have to be honest -- Romans was a very rude guy. But it was entertaining and fun while it lasted. A base pleasure. Something I've been guilty of.
@philokalia saidSo the kind of forum you wish this to be is pretty clear from your recent singling out of abusive drunks like Eladar, chaney3, caesar salad and KingDavid403 as "great posters". And here you are pontificating about "respect" and "rudeness" in this community. It's a bit rich.
I think it is good to criticize adults.
-Removed-Trust has to be earned, it's part of the way that we distinguish our friends from our acquaintances, and actually it works both ways. I'd think it a bit weird if someone I'd just met gave me their house keys and said 'Could you feed my cat' or whatever. I wouldn't steal from the person, but they don't know that. (And I'd feed the cat)
I believe we concur on this point, and it's got nothing to do with the bible or being a Christian. I daresay there are some Satanists around who are more trustworthy than some of the Christians I know.