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-Removed-Jesus died for your past sins
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; (Romans 3:23-25 KJV)
Jesus did not die so that someone can continue to sin:
For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. (Hebrews 6:4-6 KJV)
.. because it is like crucifying Jesus all over again.
Yes future sins are forgiven, but there is a limit how long God will tolerate a life of sin and forgiveness over and over and over.
Originally posted by @rajk999<<Yes sins are forgiven, but there is a limit how long God will tolerate a life of sin and forgiveness over and over and over.>>
Jesus died for your past sins
[i]For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness [b]for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; ...[text shortened]... here is a limit how long God will tolerate a life of sin and forgiveness over and over and over.[/b]
You’re waffling.
Your previous position (and that of ToO as well) was that one could not commit a single sin after accepting Christ. Now you claim there is “a limit how long God will tolerate a life of sin and forgiveness over and over and over.”
Well, congratulations for finally stumbling into the truth. Anyone who does not develop an aversion to sin after accepting Christ into his or heart did not genuinely and sincerely accept Christ because God’s Holy Spirit did not indwell them and start to change them.
I must have written that 100 times. Looks like you finally got it.
Nice!
Originally posted by @romans1009You cannot read, and you lack understanding. Any atheist who reads these forums can tell you what my position is on this issue.
<<Yes sins are forgiven, but there is a limit how long God will tolerate a life of sin and forgiveness over and over and over.>>
You’re waffling.
Your previous position (and that of ToO as well) was that one could not commit a single sin after accepting Christ. Now you claim there is “a limit how long God will tolerate a life of sin and forgiveness ...[text shortened]... t to change them.
I must have written that 100 times. Looks like you finally got it.
Nice!
Originally posted by @rajk999You can claim whatever you want to claim. I’m just glad you finally saw the light.
You cannot read, and you lack understanding. Any atheist who reads these forums can tell you what my position is on this issue.
Now I just have to get you to see that one can be assured of his or her salvation while still on the earth and that good works are evidence of salvation and not a requirement of salvation.
But you had a major breakthrough today.
Praise the Lord!
-Removed-OK I'm back. And yes the cleaning experience was so much more refreshing then listening to your bashing the bible and wondering what your going to do to resolve your doubts with God's word. I wonder how you pray to God and ask him why his bible is not up to your standards, or easier to understand????
Originally posted by @rajk999You know, I have a serious problem with a lot of what "Paul said".
Clearly you do not believe what Paul said.
Let me know if you want some more quotes.
As for your repeated nonsensical question,
I am in no position to decipher how and why your church doctrine
is completely contrary to what Paul said.
Thats for you to figure out.
He said women should be subservient to their husbands. Not merely respectful or equal, but subservient. That is just so wrong.
Paul said that women are the cause of the fall of man, yet in Biblical times, men were not only "the head of the household", but everything that happened in the family was their responsibility. Which is it, Paul?
Not only was the fall of man the fault of the woman, but the only way women could atone for it was by experiencing childbirth. Whaaaaat??!! But I guess you can't expect anything more from a man who thought women are "subservient".
Even Jesus acknowledged that the Kingdom of Heaven was for men and women who follow Him.
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Originally posted by @romans1009Are you saying the jews thought he was a prophet but not the Son of God...ie the jews think jesus went too far by claiming his divinity and should have just stuck with the prophet gig?
The Jews didn’t think Jesus was a false prophet. The Jews rejected His claim to be the Son of God and had Him put to death for blasphemy.
Or are you saying BECAUSE he claimed to be the son of god, they rejected his claim to be a prophet? So if he had just said he was the prophet, the jews would have believed him?