Is it okay for a Christian to lie?

Is it okay for a Christian to lie?

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@plantermoo said
You can’t win in an argument with me, Deucer, but I give you a C+ for effort.

See ya. PlanterMoo’s headin’ out 👍👍
Skulking under a rock more like on your belly. I give you a G -

In truth, your argument has been one of the weakest ever tendered here in the SF. It has been painful to read. First, you said the quote from the bible about not lying only applied to atheists. When one was provided that clearly showed God hated all liars, you said that was only in the OT. You then put forward the flimsy argument that the new covenant somehow enabled you to lie without consequence and finally (realizing your error) denied lying at all, despite having done so on numerous occasions about your previous banned accounts. Indeed, you did the same thing during your last nauseating account demonstrating the longevity of your dishonesty.

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@kellyjay said
If he believes it is okay to lie, he is mistaken.
Agreed. All humans are fallible but lying should not come easily, especially if one is claiming to have been transformed by the holy spirit.

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
Skulking under a rock more like on your belly. I give you a G -

In truth, your argument has been one of the weakest ever tendered here in the SF. It has been painful to read. First, you said the quote from the bible about not lying only applied to atheists. When one was provided that clearly showed God hated all liars, you said that was only in the OT. You then put ...[text shortened]... d the same thing during your last nauseating account demonstrating the longevity of your dishonesty.
You’ve worked yourself up into a frenzy, Deucer.

Remember, trolling is a marathon not a sprint.

Just like you get gassed on discussing substance after one or two posts, the same can happen with trolling if you don’t pace yourself.

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@plantermoo said
You’ve worked yourself up into a frenzy, Deucer.

Remember, trolling is a marathon not a sprint.

Just like you get gassed on discussing substance after one or two posts, the same can happen with trolling if you don’t pace yourself.
Thread update:

Only you have been banned from the site repeatedly for malicious and creepy trolling.

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
Agreed. All humans are fallible but lying should not come easily, especially if one is claiming to have been transformed by the holy spirit.
People can be found as victims in things like the holocaust and just as easily they can be the ones doing the killing, normal people are always on both sides of genocide, and lying could be such a little thing compared to that depending on the lie. I agree that the Holy Spirit does not make it easy to lie or anything else sinful.

The transforming work of the Holy Spirit is a lifelong process for those that now belong to God, He does not take away our free will even after we are saved. That issue is huge, some think because we are material beings we are only doing that which our material bodies are programmed to do we have no choice, and there are Christians who believe God programmed us to do what we do, the good and the bad He chooses who He wants and who He wants to throw in Hell we have nothing to do with all of that.

I believe God has given us the ability to choose, we can choose to honor God in the good or bad, and we choose to be honest or deceitful, in suffering or blessings, regardless. So nothing we are confronted with gives us a license to sin lying or otherwise if we are truthful about honoring God, and that in public and in private where only God sees.

When we create as in writing books, who we create have no choices, they only do what we write them to do, God can and does give us the ability to choose.

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
Thread update:

Only you have been banned from the site repeatedly for malicious and creepy trolling.
That statement might have credibility if so many on here didn’t believe the forum moderation was biased in favor of several individuals to an extraordinary degree.

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
You have repeatedly denied that you are the past poster who has been banned from this site, saying posters have the wrong person. This is a blatant and obvious lie. In the near future Russ will ban this current account you are using and once again you will be the lying, sad, person kicked off the site.
Does that make you happy?
You are allowed here but planter moo isn't?
Are you looking for red thumbs banning people who did no wrong?

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@kellyjay said
Not okay to be deceitful, that is acting out hiding truth. I will also add having a wrong idea about something and speaking what you mistakenly think is true is not lying if you admit you could be wrong. Saying something is truth and is not while claiming to know is, as your misrepresenting claims that are not reality.
Saying something is truth and is not while claiming to know is, as your misrepresenting claims that are not reality.

Then you are guilty of this all the time, KellyJay. We have discussed your use of the verb "to know" when in fact you are talking about your subjective beliefs and articles of faith.

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@zoo said
Does that make you happy?
You are allowed here but planter moo isn't?
Are you looking for red thumbs banning people who did no wrong?
Less than 24 hours on the site and in your very first post you are preoccupied with "red thumbs" and "banning people"? Mmm.

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@fmf said
Less than 24 hours on the site and in your very first post you are preoccupied with "red thumbs" and "banning people"? Mmm.
Make sure you write that down gooster.

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@zoo said
Make sure you write that down gooster.
Less than 24 hours on the site and already a sign that you are probably going to fixate on divegeester. Mmm.

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@ZOO
haha... it's everywhere

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
Are you a previously banned member?
Are you committing a murder?

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The Denial of Peter (or Peter's Denial) refers to three acts of denial of Jesus by the Apostle Peter as described in all four Gospels of the New Testament. Safely in heaven with the holy ones.

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@zoo said
Make sure you write that down gooster.
Why are you calling FMF by that name ?