@plantermoo saidThe substance of intellect and intellectual enquiry will never run out; the great voyage of discovery which is science will continue for as long as people have the desire to discover, and to question. All that unquestioning belief in ancient texts and mythology does is to grind our unique species of animal into the intellectual dust.
What happens when the substance runs out…
@plantermoo said“We’re all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.”
<<We have the power to look up at the night sky and say "I want to find out what's up there and how it works." The neck structure of pigs renders them unable to look up at the sky.>>
Well, ya got me.
If pigs only had a flexible neck, they’d be solving the riddles of the universe.
— Oscar Wilde
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@indonesia-phil said“The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.”
The substance of intellect and intellectual enquiry will never run out; the great voyage of discovery which is science will continue for as long as people have the desire to discover, and to question. All that unquestioning belief in ancient texts and mythology does is to grind our unique species of animal into the intellectual dust.
(Psalm 14:1)
“The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.”
(Proverbs 9:10)
@plantermoo saidYou worship words.
“The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.”
(Psalm 14:1)
“The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.”
(Proverbs 9:10)
@moonbus saidThe truth is not a matter of beliefs only, if something is true, it is just that true. If I have beliefs that are about reality, they can come from science or religion where they come from doesn't alter the facts about my belief being true or not. There isn't a distinction without a difference when it comes to science and religious thoughts, they either reflect reality or don't.
This is perilously close to word salad. It’s hard to understand your intent when the sentences are not grammatically well-formed.
@plantermoo saidYou are presupposing that humans must "worship" something ~ which might be true for people with a theist [or superstitious] mindset ~ however, it certainly isn't true for non-theists ~ not in the sense of the word when you claim to "worship God",
I worship God.
You worship yourself and fallible men.
This makes your weary and cliched 'debating point' - one that the hapless sonship used to trot out interminably - a weak variant of the false dichotomy logical fallacy.
@kellyjay saidI think scientific endeavour has more to tell us about the reality of the universe - and perhaps the nature of a creator entity behind it ~ than your ancient Hebrew folklore does, even with its think-your-way-to-immortality offshoot.
The truth is not a matter of beliefs only, if something is true, it is just that true. If I have beliefs that are about reality, they can come from science or religion where they come from doesn't alter the facts about my belief being true or not. There isn't a distinction without a difference when it comes to science and religious thoughts, they either reflect reality or don't.
@plantermoo saidMaybe. They're smart critters!
<<We have the power to look up at the night sky and say "I want to find out what's up there and how it works." The neck structure of pigs renders them unable to look up at the sky.>>
Well, ya got me.
If pigs only had a flexible neck, they’d be solving the riddles of the universe.
@plantermoo said"Champ" - The go to word of the poster repeatedly banned from the site by Russ for malicious trolling.
Speak for yourself, champ.