CA teachers want free health care...the ones with kids.

California teachers who have children want FREE child care before they go back to teaching. Free, man, tho they chose to have, and care for, children. Taxes would pay for their child care. If there are teachers who DO NOT have children, then the ones without children are getting no equal benefit from these taxes. So, What FREE stuff can these teachers get from the government, so that everyone is "in the same place a the end of the day". Kamala once made this stupid comment.
There is no Social Justice!!!!! ( i have never known what that means 🤔 🤔 .)

@averagejoe1 said
California teachers who have children want FREE child care before they go back to teaching. Free, man, tho they chose to have, and care for, children. Taxes would pay for their child care. If there are teachers who DO NOT have children, then the ones without children are getting no equal benefit from these taxes. So, What FREE stuff can these teachers get from the govern ...[text shortened]... stupid comment.
There is no Social Justice!!!!! ( i have never known what that means 🤔 🤔 .)

Meant to say Child Care

I have no problem, Joe, with working people making demands for their employment.,
They are looking after themselves and their own and that is to be lauded. My opinion.

What has to be disheartening is to be a worker - in this case, a teacher, and KNOW that the taxes
they take out of your paycheck go to pay for the medical insurance for the children of deadbeat illegal aliens

I mean, WTF, aren't working people entitled to equal rights?? I guess not.

@earl-of-trumps said
I have no problem, Joe, with working people making demands for their employment.,
They are looking after themselves and their own and that is to be lauded. My opinion.

What has to be disheartening is to be a worker - in this case, a teacher, and KNOW that the taxes
they take out of your paycheck go to pay for the medical insurance for the children of deadbeat illegal aliens

I mean, WTF, aren't working people entitled to equal rights?? I guess not.

Yes, to all that, but my point is that employees of the school without children are watching money which is coming from 'somewhere' being used to supplement, if you will, the income of their counterparts. So, moms reap a nice benefit, the childless people do not. Maybe the childless teachers can ask for money for some other reason? They should, in this 'everyone equal' society.

Did you see where the liberal member of Biden staff, in responding to the fact that only about 7% of the infrastructure money is going to infrastructure,,,,she said...."Well, we need to upgrade the definition of infrastructure, there is social infrastructure, help for the elderly infrastructure.."
They have gone mad. But hey, they own it.

@averagejoe1 said
Maybe the childless teachers can ask for money for some other reason? They should, in this 'everyone equal' society.

An "equal" society only means no one gets an unfair advantage over others; it doesn't mean you don't give extra help those who need it. By your logic, there should be no tax breaks for people with children because it's unfair to those without kids.

@vivify said
An "equal" society only means no one gets an unfair advantage over others; it doesn't mean you don't give extra help those who need it. By your logic, there should be no tax breaks for people with children because it's unfair to those without kids.

But Kamala said 'It needs to be equal so that at the end of the day, everyone ends up in the same place'. I get what you are saying....but what in the world was she saying? You see why we conservatives come to the liberal table, being not fully versed. Like, just today a Biden lieutenant said that you are going to change the definition of certain words. That is hard for a realist to digest.

@averagejoe1 said
But Kamala said 'It needs to be equal so that at the end of the day, everyone ends up in the same place'. I get what you are saying....but what in the world was she saying? You see why we conservatives come to the liberal table, being not fully versed. Like, just today a Biden lieutenant said that you are going to change the definition of certain words. That is hard for a realist to digest.

Perhaps if you did not purposefully literalise what she said you wouldn’t get so upset about what she was actually saying.

@vivify said
An "equal" society only means no one gets an unfair advantage over others; it doesn't mean you don't give extra help those who need it. By your logic, there should be no tax breaks for people with children because it's unfair to those without kids.

Me me me!! I can handle this.

Personally, I don't believe in forced taxes to being with, but a nice compromise for now is, nobody pays taxes
on the first $100,000 they earn, everything from there out gets taxed 30%, *however*, there are no such deductions
as your children. If you want children, go for it, just don't expect me to pay for it.

@averagejoe1 said
California teachers who have children want FREE child care before they go back to teaching. Free, man, tho they chose to have, and care for, children. Taxes would pay for their child care. If there are teachers who DO NOT have children, then the ones without children are getting no equal benefit from these taxes. So, What FREE stuff can these teachers get from the govern ...[text shortened]... stupid comment.
There is no Social Justice!!!!! ( i have never known what that means 🤔 🤔 .)

heh handling you becomes so much more easier if one believes you to be over 70 like you mentioned once.

Whenever you spout dumb crap like this we just need to remind ourselves that you are old, your mind is porridge and nothing will change that. No amount of proof, reasoning, examples.

@zahlanzi said
heh handling you becomes so much more easier if one believes you to be over 70 like you mentioned once.

Whenever you spout dumb crap like this we just need to remind ourselves that you are old, your mind is porridge and nothing will change that. No amount of proof, reasoning, examples.

Which is to say that your New World, of Socialism, is different than what i, at 78, am used to. Instead if your post here, you could have said this.
You are correct, of course. It sure has been difficult for me to teach my grandchildren how to live in a socialist society, full of parasites.

@averagejoe1 said
California teachers who have children want FREE child care before they go back to teaching. Free, man, tho they chose to have, and care for, children. Taxes would pay for their child care. If there are teachers who DO NOT have children, then the ones without children are getting no equal benefit from these taxes. So, What FREE stuff can these teachers get from the govern ...[text shortened]... stupid comment.
There is no Social Justice!!!!! ( i have never known what that means 🤔 🤔 .)

Isn't the point here that the children are people so the extra benefit is going to those extra people rather than the same number of people getting more. Doesn't the children getting the better start increase the chances that they go on to be productive themselves so decreasing the chance of them being a burden on your taxes. In the same way doesn't better working conditions for teachers retain better teachers and decrease the chance of their students being a future burden on the tax payer. Sounds like wise investment and good business to me if you want to retain the good teachers when they have kids. Children are the future. They are also potentially the future burden on the tax system.

@averagejoe1 said
California teachers who have children want FREE child care before they go back to teaching. Free, man, tho they chose to have, and care for, children. Taxes would pay for their child care. If there are teachers who DO NOT have children, then the ones without children are getting no equal benefit from these taxes. So, What FREE stuff can these teachers get from the govern ...[text shortened]... stupid comment.
There is no Social Justice!!!!! ( i have never known what that means 🤔 🤔 .)

The next generation is who pays to keep the ball rolling after you go. If you don't care about that, I can understand why you think someone is getting an unfair advantage here.

If you don't understand what "everyone is in the same place at the end of the day" means, I suggest you ask Kamala herself.

Sensible people mean by it "equity of opportunity." Stupid people think it means "sameness of outcomes." Now, I readily grant that there may be some stupid politician who really does mean sameness of outcomes, but there is also a fear among conservatives which conflates equity of opportunity with sameness of outcomes.

@moonbus said
The next generation is who pays to keep the ball rolling after you go. If you don't care about that, I can understand why you think someone is getting an unfair advantage here.

If you don't understand what "everyone is in the same place at the end of the day" means, I suggest you ask Kamala herself.

Sensible people mean by it "equity of opportunity." Stupid peopl ...[text shortened]... is also a fear among conservatives which conflates equity of opportunity with sameness of outcomes.

Sue and Ann are equal salaried teachers. Sue decided she cud not afford a child. Ann thinks it is ok to have 2 children. Sue wud LOVE to have 2 children, very sad, and she watches Ann love her 2 kids. Then Sue sees that Ann is going to ask the govt to pay for her children to be entertained and grow stronger to be those productive kids you are speaking of. So, 10 years later, the govt has paid for Ann to have 2 perfect kids, Sue, who made a proper decision, is left with no children, and thinking what in the world just happened. I could however the government raise my children for me.
Is this fair, gentlemen???

@averagejoe1 said
Sue and Ann are equal salaried teachers. Sue decided she cud not afford a child. Ann thinks it is ok to have 2 children. Sue wud LOVE to have 2 children, very sad, and she watches Ann love her 2 kids. Then Sue sees that Ann is going to ask the govt to pay for her children to be entertained and grow stronger to be those productive kids you are speaking of. So, 10 years la ...[text shortened]... t happened. I could however the government raise my children for me.
Is this fair, gentlemen???

Define “proper“ decision.

And what is improper about Ann‘s ?

The govt is not raising Ann‘s children. It is simply making it possible for Ann to both raise her own and still teach other children, while earning a wage and paying into the tax system. Had Ann stayed home to raise her kids, the whole system would be poorer by one teacher and one tax payer.

@averagejoe1 said
Which is to say that your New World, of Socialism, is different than what i, at 78, am used to. Instead if your post here, you could have said this.
You are correct, of course. It sure has been difficult for me to teach my grandchildren how to live in a socialist society, full of parasites.

"Which is to say that your New World, of Socialism"
Nothing new about it. All countries have it, even the US.

"It sure has been difficult for me to teach my grandchildren how to live in a socialist society, full of parasites."
Most likely they ignore you just like we do.