CA teachers want free health care...the ones with kids.

@Zahlanzi -
A lot of americans don't have clean water either. Are you going to blame socialists
too on that ? A lot of americans starve. There is high crime in the US too.
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One of the most obtuse posters in here.

I would challenge you to look at a comparison between Venezuela and the US that I could make,
but I know you, all you would do is slink into denial and move the goal posts.

Keep thinking everything is Ok in socialist Venezuela, toolbag. Meanwhile, 600,000 Venezuelans have fled to America.

Obtuse: annoyingly insensitive or slow to understand.

@earl-of-trumps said
@Zahlanzi -
A lot of americans don't have clean water either. Are you going to blame socialists
too on that ? A lot of americans starve. There is high crime in the US too.
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One of the most obtuse posters in here.

I would challenge you to look at a comparison between Venezuela and the US that I could make,
but I know you, all you ...[text shortened]... zuelans have fled to America.

Obtuse: annoyingly insensitive or slow to understand.

"I would challenge you to look at a comparison between Venezuela and the US that I could make"
I just did. I also compare the US with France, Denmark, Norway, UK, Canada.

"Keep thinking everything is Ok in socialist Venezuela, toolbag. Meanwhile, 600,000 Venezuelans have fled to America."
Nobody said that, you dense slab of concrete. You formed the issue as if nobody but communists have starvation, dirty water and crime. I made the point that corruption and disregard for the wellbeing of others do that, not socialism. And corruption and disregard for the wellbeing of your fellow man is something America has in spades.

@Zahlanzi -
You formed the issue as if nobody but communists have starvation, dirty water and crime.


You are pathetic. Comparing starvation, hunger, unemployment, crime in the US to Venezuela,. jeeeeezus.

you are pathetic. that's all I can say. I think your IQ level is too low for me to converse with. c'ya

@Zahlanzi

Stop referencing Canada.
You know nothing about it.

@earl-of-trumps said
@Zahlanzi -
You formed the issue as if nobody but communists have starvation, dirty water and crime.


You are pathetic. Comparing starvation, hunger, unemployment, crime in the US to Venezuela,. jeeeeezus.

you are pathetic. that's all I can say. I think your IQ level is too low for me to converse with. c'ya

"You are pathetic. Comparing starvation, hunger, unemployment, crime in the US to Venezuela,"
Does it offend you? That the supposedly richest country in the world allows its citizens to starve? That it allows its citizens to die because they can''t afford medical care? Does it offend you that I compare it to Venezuela, a country which though it may have higher levels of hunger also doesn't have nowhere near the levels of wealth the US has?

Good.

@very-musty said
@Zahlanzi

Stop referencing Canada.
You know nothing about it.

An opinion unsupported by facts is like a fart in the wind. They quickly disappear and they both come from asholes.


So... no.

Pathetic. Really pathetic. 😕
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@Zahlanzi -
Does it offend you? That the supposedly richest country in the world allows its citizens to starve?

EoT: Liar. Flat out Liar.
The USA has food stamps, SNAP, and EBT benefits - and perhaps other programs from the fed and state.
Also, any city or town has food banks like Salvation Army, Churches, and others.
Many cities and towns have soup kitchens. The city I live in has 3 churches that take turn ensuring a hot meal be available every day.
Z: allows its citizens to starve?
You LIE like a rug.


@Zahlanzi - That it allows its citizens to die because they can''t afford medical care?

EoT: You LIE Like a rug.
No HUMAN, citizen or not, is refused urgent medical care because they do not have coverage.

@Zahlanzi -
Does it offend you that I compare it to Venezuela, a country which though it may have higher levels of hunger also doesn't have nowhere near the levels of wealth the US has?

Responding to your gibberish dignifies it and dignifies YOU which I will not do, at this point. You lie to make your points,
which means you have no points! LoOZaH... without a mazoozah

Why do all liberals LIE?????

JEeeeeeeeeeeeeezus

@zahlanzi said
"You are pathetic. Comparing starvation, hunger, unemployment, crime in the US to Venezuela,"
Does it offend you? That the supposedly richest country in the world allows its citizens to starve? That it allows its citizens to die because they can''t afford medical care? Does it offend you that I compare it to Venezuela, a country which though it may have higher levels of hunger also doesn't have nowhere near the levels of wealth the US has?

Good.

No medical care, Zhalanzi? The yard guy who cuts my bushes twice a month came down with Covid pneumonia. He is in our local hospital, 10 days now, getting great care on the 'covid floor'. I love this country.
Uh, he will be cured by our angel nurses and physicians, and will not pay a penny for his care, which certainly will over $50K. The guy in the bed next to him could be a millionaire with covid pneumonia. Whew.
Either you, or I, are wrong. I hate it. Hope Earl doesn't jump on this and ruin your day.
You're not from around here, apparently. How bout entertaining us with comparison of Romania to the USA.

@earl-of-trumps said
Pathetic. Really pathetic. 😕
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@Zahlanzi -
Does it offend you? That the supposedly richest country in the world allows its citizens to starve?

EoT: Liar. Flat out Liar.
The USA has food stamps, SNAP, and EBT benefits - and perhaps other programs from the fed and state.
Also, any city or town has food banks like Salvatio ...[text shortened]... point. You lie to make your points,
which means you have no points! LoOZaH... without a mazoozah

"You LIE like a rug."
Heh funny. Rugs are notoriously devious, it is known. Or were you trying to be clever with homonyms? You failed.

"The USA has food stamps, SNAP, and EBT benefits - and perhaps other programs from the fed and state."
That you republicans constantly cut and throw people off of.

"Also, any city or town has food banks like Salvation Army, Churches, and others.
Many cities and towns have soup kitchens. "
And they totally cover everyone, right? All the people saying they go to bed without food, they are lying, right? I mean, YOU wouldn't lie, right?

"The city I live in has 3 churches that take turn ensuring a hot meal be available every day"
3 whole churches? 1 entire hot meal per day? Gasp!!!! That is totally enough in the richest country in the world.

"No HUMAN, citizen or not, is refused urgent medical care because they do not have coverage."
I didn't say urgent, now, did I? Having a stab wound is considered urgent. Having a heart attack is urgent. Surprisingly, for your ignorant ass, there is more to healthcare than urgent procedures.

Not affording your next dose of insulin or chemo is not fukin covered by ER. Getting a yearly checkup is not urgent medical care. Getting the needed drugs is not considered urgent.

The ER gets you in a stable condition and shows you the door. That's it. That's not providing your citizens with healthcare.

"Responding to your gibberish dignifies it and dignifies YOU which I will not do, at this point."
You just did. Soooo... what the fuk are you talking about.

"You lie to make your points, "
As i just shown, i did not. Try again. Or are you a liar?

@averagejoe1 said
No medical care, Zhalanzi? The yard guy who cuts my bushes twice a month came down with Covid pneumonia. He is in our local hospital, 10 days now, getting great care on the 'covid floor'. I love this country.
Uh, he will be cured by our angel nurses and physicians, and will not pay a penny for his care, which certainly will over $50K. The guy in the bed next ...[text shortened]... e not from around here, apparently. How bout entertaining us with comparison of Romania to the USA.

"No medical care, Zhalanzi? The yard guy who cuts my bushes twice a month came down with Covid pneumonia. He is in our local hospital, 10 days now, getting great care on the 'covid floor'. I love this country."
What a lovely story. I bet it is even relevant in your addled mind.

"Uh, he will be cured by our angel nurses and physicians, and will not pay a penny for his care, which certainly will over $50K. "
Setting aside for a moment the very high probability you're lying, how are you not realizing 50k for a 10 day stay in the hospital is grotesque, idiotic, ludicrous? Are you out of your fukin mind? Even when you tell fairy tales about your fictional gardener you still can't help but reveal outrageous facts about your fuked up healthcare system that you believe to be perfectly normal?

"Either you, or I, are wrong"
You are. You have a wonderful streak of being wrong about everything. You won't spoil it now.

"You're not from around here, apparently. How bout entertaining us with comparison of Romania to the USA."
Sure why not.
Romania's GDP is $249,188 million. USA GDP was 21.43 trillion USD (2019)
GDP per capita of Romania in 2020 was $12,892. US' GDP per capita was $65,297.52.
Now, to any other sane and intelligent person those numbers should be enough that they don't need to hear about how the healthcare system in Romania compares to the US'. But you aren't such a person, are you? That's why you asked. You thought "now I got him" and probably giggled inside that haunted house you call a mind.

@zahlanzi said
"You LIE like a rug."
Heh funny. Rugs are notoriously devious, it is known. Or were you trying to be clever with homonyms? You failed.

"The USA has food stamps, SNAP, and EBT benefits - and perhaps other programs from the fed and state."
That you republicans constantly cut and throw people off of.

"Also, any city or town has food banks like Salvation Army, Churches ...[text shortened]... bout.

"You lie to make your points, "
As i just shown, i did not. Try again. Or are you a liar?

Here's Zahlanzi, a govt dependent......I cannot IMAGINE being dependent upon government. Your posts are such that your reader should just stipulate at the outset that your premise, that people have a RIGHT to the free stuff which you tout, is a GIVEN!!!! It is not, it is not in the Constitution . Not a word about it.

So your arguments are quite empty. I pay for my health care...supplemental insurance, etc , it's all available. If someone does not plan for healthcare, tough. I have often said the govt should indeed pay for the welfare of our 40M citizens who are really destitute, no problem. The rest of us...you are not going to like this...need to be 'self-reliant'. You should look that up, maybe even aspire to it, and get off the govt tit.
Do all you liberals think about govt handouts all day long??? Is that the number one concern of your daily lives? Sad indeed. what a waste/

@zahlanzi said
"No medical care, Zhalanzi? The yard guy who cuts my bushes twice a month came down with Covid pneumonia. He is in our local hospital, 10 days now, getting great care on the 'covid floor'. I love this country."
What a lovely story. I bet it is even relevant in your addled mind.

"Uh, he will be cured by our angel nurses and physicians, and will not pay a penny for ...[text shortened]... u asked. You thought "now I got him" and probably giggled inside that haunted house you call a mind.

Grotesque cost of healthcare. It is a competitive market, so it logically cannot be over-charging of anything. This is capitalism.
Could you possibly be confusing the USA with Romania, where I assume the govvvveeerrnnnnnnmmmeet regulates such costs? Downer. Give me capitalism. Can you imagine being at the mercy of a government....Oh, I guess you can. You seem to like it Creepy. FYI for our readers, Romania is a socialist republic. This is amazing I am listening to you about your poor non-capitalistic society. You are really standing up to Earl a few posts back!!!! Give it a rest, Zahlanzi, I'd spend my energy on something else if I were you. Survival, maybe. I myself am going to play golf..

@averagejoe1 said
Grotesque cost of healthcare. It is a competitive market, so it logically cannot be over-charging of anything. This is capitalism.
Could you possibly be confusing the USA with Romania, where I assume the govvvveeerrnnnnnnmmmeet regulates such costs? Downer. Give me capitalism. Can you imagine being at the mercy of a government....Oh, I guess you can. You seem to l ...[text shortened]... spend my energy on something else if I were you. Survival, maybe. I myself am going to play golf..

"Grotesque cost of healthcare. It is a competitive market, so it logically cannot be over-charging of anything."
Yes it can. When the customer absolutely needs a product to survive you can overcharge anything.

"This is capitalism."
Yes, sadly. This is American capitalism. Canada can do capitalism and still care for its citizens.

" Could you possibly be confusing the USA with Romania, where I assume the govvvveeerrnnnnnnmmmeet regulates such costs?"
There is no danger to confuse USA with a country that regulates the costs of healthcare. Like Germany. Or UK. Or Canada. Or Denmark. Or pretty much every other country. It's funny how the cost of producing insulin is the same in Canada and US but in the US its price is like 6 times higher.

"Give me capitalism"
Oh it is my fervent wish that you get to experience capitalism in all its glory. All of it.

"Can you imagine being at the mercy of a government"
Rather than at the mercy of a corporation? What an impossible dilemma. Have representatives I vote for govern the country instead of a corporation out to do as much profit as possible for a handful of people?

"You seem to like it"
Yes. I pay taxes, I get something out it.

"FYI for our readers, Romania is a socialist republic."
And oddly enough, we haven't descended into anarchy. Weird.

" This is amazing I am listening to you about your poor non-capitalistic society"
No you're not listening. You haven't listened to a word I said. You jeered at me for living in a poorer country as if YOU have any merit for being born in the richest one and benefiting from socialist programs Roosevelt and Eisenhower implemented and others.


I know what Romania is and I know what the US is. I have somewhat different expectations from either.

"Survival, maybe."
Wtf do you think living in Romania is like, Mad Max? Can you be more ignorant?

@averagejoe1 said
Here's Zahlanzi, a govt dependent......I cannot IMAGINE being dependent upon government. Your posts are such that your reader should just stipulate at the outset that your premise, that people have a RIGHT to the free stuff which you tout, is a GIVEN!!!! It is not, it is not in the Constitution . Not a word about it.

So your arguments are quite empty. I pay for ...[text shortened]... outs all day long??? Is that the number one concern of your daily lives? Sad indeed. what a waste/

"I cannot IMAGINE being dependent upon government."
That's because you're dumb. You are dependent on the government in a ton of aspects. Yeah, even the US government.

"that people have a RIGHT to the free stuff which you tout"
yes, they do. Healthcare is a right.

"It is not, it is not in the Constitution "
Owning slaves used to be in the Constitution. So how about you fuk right off with your Constitution. It is a living document (in civilized countries), it was amended plenty of times. As humanity progresses, we evolve our understanding of human rights and our constitutions evolve with that.

"I pay for my health care...supplemental insurance, etc , it's all available"
Good for you dear. Fuk everybody else then?

"If someone does not plan for healthcare, tough. I have often said the govt should indeed pay for the welfare of our 40M citizens who are really destitute, no problem. The rest of us...you are not going to like this...need to be 'self-reliant'. You should look that up, maybe even aspire to it, and get off the govt tit. "
so pay or not pay? You are vomiting mixed thoughts again.

"Do all you liberals think about govt handouts all day long??? Is that the number one concern of your daily lives? "
Healthcare is not a handout, it is a human right. And since even the poor pay taxes, it wouldn't be free. It would simply mean the government regulates the costs of a bloated for profit industry and makes it available to all, regardless of income rather than give tax cuts to the rich or add another hundred billion to military spending.

"Sad indeed. what a waste/"
Yeh, that's what most people think when they see US wealth used in such ways.