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Science Negates All of Abrahamic Religions

Science Negates All of Abrahamic Religions

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@kellyjay said
Not sure why you mention Hunter’s laptop, are you now attempting to change the subject to politics, that to isn’t science or even spiritual.
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@kellyjay said


Not sure why you mention Hunter’s laptop, are you now attempting to change the subject to politics, that to isn’t science or even spiritual. There is a distinction between being good and evil or not. Please
Gad, you’re dense. It’s not about politics. It’s about you being a broken record. You and AverageJoe whine about the same two things in every thread to which you two contribute. With Joe, it’s Hunter; with you, it’s how evil you think everyone is.

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@kellyjay said
You guys cannot even see evil for what it is. What does it mean to be human, what do humans do, we can look at the track record, does that need to be spelled out to you? There is nothing that sets you apart from any of the ones that do these really horrible things, you think you are better than the rest, you don't do some of these bad evil things in the same frequency or a ...[text shortened]... e always trying to find a way to tear down God, what would you have shouted when Jesus was on trial?
you are always trying to find a way to tear down God

It's not about tearing down God. It's about analyzing bronze-age myths. The Hebrew myth about Yahweh is on a level with Persian myths about Ahura Mazda, Egyptian myths about Ra, Horus, Osiris et al., Greek myths about Zeus, Apollo, Athena, et al., Hindu myths about Shiva, Krsna, et al. They can all be analyzed in the same terms and on the same grounds. The main difference among them is that we have little in the way of written texts from the Egyptian and Persian myths, mostly just monuments and inscriptions. Whereas, for the Hebrew, Greek, and Hindu myths, we have extant literature.

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@moonbus said
Gad, you’re dense. It’s not about politics. It’s about you being a broken record. You and AverageJoe whine about the same two things in every thread to which you two contribute. With Joe, it’s Hunter; with you, it’s how evil you think everyone is.
I understood the point, but it didn't have anything to do with the topic now did it? The thing is Duke was assigning evil to God for bears attacking kids, you say God didn't do it, does that make bears being sent to attack kids, is no longer evil if a person does it in his or your eyes? A yes answer means there is at least a line of acknowledgment that evil is real.

God is the King of the universe, so judge, jury, and executioner are all part of the full package of being the one who sets down all of our natural laws like gravity, and gives us our abilities to reason, to breathe, to act with conviction.

With each death due to a fall we can lay at God's feet, He set up gravity and gave our bodies the limitations they have. Each death due to drowning is also due to our body's limitations they have and how we react to water. For everyone who suffocates, due to finding themselves in need of air for whatever reason, God designed our bodies and give us the air we breathe.

He created us moral creatures, so we look to justify ourselves, and if we are guilty of crimes He may decide to hold us accountable, then no one can deliver us out of His hand, He is God.

I care a little about politics, and if I were to discuss it I'd do it with other Americans who share the same rights and responsibilities as I have. I don't discuss it often, once in a blue moon. American politics stop at our border, good and evil are human issues that should concern everyone, and getting those two things wrong, has eternal consequences.


@moonbus said
you are always trying to find a way to tear down God

It's not about tearing down God. It's about analyzing bronze-age myths. The Hebrew myth about Yahweh is on a level with Persian myths about Ahura Mazda, Egyptian myths about Ra, Horus, Osiris et al., Greek myths about Zeus, Apollo, Athena, et al., Hindu myths about Shiva, Krsna, et al. They can all be analyzed in ...[text shortened]... uments and inscriptions. Whereas, for the Hebrew, Greek, and Hindu myths, we have extant literature.
Do you think God who transcends time cares about our labels with respect to the bronze age or not? The God of the scriptures OT and NT is not on par with any of the other gods who all were born and raised in the universe, while the Lord of Host created the universe.


@kellyjay said
Do you think God who transcends time cares about our labels with respect to the bronze age or not?
You've got it back to front. The issue is what kind of deity did bronze age minds imagine to be real and project their primitive speculations about the world around them onto.

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@kellyjay said
I understood the point, but it didn't have anything to do with the topic now did it? The thing is Duke was assigning evil to God for bears attacking kids, you say God didn't do it, does that make bears being sent to attack kids, is no longer evil if a person does it in his or your eyes? A yes answer means there is at least a line of acknowledgment that evil is real.

God ...[text shortened]... n issues that should concern everyone, and getting those two things wrong, has eternal consequences.
You think a talking snake is real and a blue elephant isn't, don't you?


@kellyjay said
Do you think God who transcends time cares about our labels with respect to the bronze age or not? The God of the scriptures OT and NT is not on par with any of the other gods who all were born and raised in the universe, while the Lord of Host created the universe.
Do you think anybody but ourselves wants us to be here? Yes, I guess you do. You think the whole universe, billions and billions of galaxies, were created just so one man would look up and think, ‘Wow.’

Wow, just, wow. “Egotism” doesn’t begin to do it justice.

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@moonbus said
You think a talking snake is real and a blue elephant isn't, don't you?
I think the spiritual world is eternal and this physical world is transit passing away and that the spiritual world can and does interact with the physical one now and then, and can pull off some strange unexplainable things. Like creating a universe out of nothing, inserting instructional code into life, like creating two things at the same time that require the other to be there for both to exist. Satan can affect a snake it can talk, God can affect a donkey so it can rebuke its rider, a blue elephant I'm unaware of the story behind that though I've seen pictures.


@moonbus said
Do you think anybody but ourselves wants us to be here? Yes, I guess you do. You think the whole universe, billions and billions of galaxies, were created just so one man would look up and think, ‘Wow.’

Wow, just, wow. “Egotism” doesn’t begin to do it justice.
You act as if size and mass matter to the One who creates everything out of nothing.

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@kellyjay said
I think the spiritual world is eternal and this physical world is transit passing away and that the spiritual world can and does interact with the physical one now and then, and can pull off some strange unexplainable things. Like creating a universe out of nothing, inserting instructional code into life, like creating two things at the same time that require the other to b ...[text shortened]... an rebuke its rider, a blue elephant I'm unaware of the story behind that though I've seen pictures.
Thank you for the resume of your beliefs.

For your info, 1.2 billion Hindus believe in blue elephants.


@moonbus said
Thank you for the resume of your beliefs.

For your info, 1.2 billion Hindus believe in blue elephants.
Okay, that is fine, and?


@kellyjay said
Okay, that is fine, and?
Talking snakes and blue elephants are at eye level. They’re not real. They’re metaphors, figures of speech, archetypal images, which express human, all too human, eschatological aspirations.

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