@kellyjay saidThis is just a rant . What does your reply have to do with god finding pleasure in a 5 year old with cancer ??
It is the whole human race at every age from young to old that shares the same nature that has been corrupted, you are acting like it's a select few and only once in a while. By nature, we put our self-interest above everything else and that causes all kinds of issues in our interaction with one another. The human race like all other things is defined by our actions, and y ...[text shortened]... bout you that means you aren't capable of hating someone, do you believe other humans are below you?
@caissad4 saidI'm not ranting, I'm pointing out that the whole of our race is flawed and those flaws have brought about more than a few nasty issues within our genetic makeup over time, and on top of that we do serious harm to one another on a daily basis. This you find disputable? Moreover, I asked you if you were above such things, that too is not a rant, it is simply pointing out that we (I included) share the same nature with every single other person, and as a people, we do horrific things to one another continually.
This is just a rant . What does your reply have to do with god finding pleasure in a 5 year old with cancer ??
Do you think there is a divide among people between those who are capable and more than willing to do these things from another group who isn't capable? Do you think we are all capable of such things being made of the same stock? Is there something special about you that doesn't allow you to be someone who does something bad?
I don't believe God finds pleasure in the results of our sinning, I believe He hates it, as a matter of fact, He entered into humanity to fix it, taking on all of the guilt we have due to our actions.
@kellyjay saidAnd I guess your god failed in his attempt to fix the problem . Pretty lame for an omnipotent being , don't you think ?
I'm not ranting, I'm pointing out that the whole of our race is flawed and those flaws have brought about more than a few nasty issues within our genetic makeup over time, and on top of that we do serious harm to one another on a daily basis. This you find disputable? Moreover, I asked you if you were above such things, that too is not a rant, it is simply pointing out tha ...[text shortened]... of fact, He entered into humanity to fix it, taking on all of the guilt we have due to our actions.
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@caissad4 saidWhy would you think that? This is a temporary world, nothing here lasts, even our lives are but a vapor here today, gone tomorrow. Nothing we acquire in this life do we take with us when we die. God is creating a Kingdom that will never have evil touch it even once, all that does evil, all that was unrepentant of evil, all who were never born again into the eternal kingdom will be cast into Hell where they were will be forever. The problem of evil will be solved eternally, none who wish to avoid God in this life will be forced into it they will get what they want. All the suffering in this world will be thought of as nothing in an eternal Kingdom once the temporary is gone.
And I guess your god failed in his attempt to fix the problem . Pretty lame for an omnipotent being , don't you think ?
@kellyjay saidLucifer was in heaven , with free will , and god knew beforehand that he would do what you claim he did but still rewarded him with a domain of sorts on Earth . Satan is clearly unrepentant and and was evil while in heaven . So evil was in heaven except for your trying to twist the truth . I would like to hear Satan's side of that story .
Why would you think that? This is a temporary world, nothing here lasts, even our lives are but a vapor here today, gone tomorrow. Nothing we acquire in this life do we take with us when we die. God is creating a Kingdom that will never have evil touch it even once, all that does evil, all that was unrepentant of evil, all who were never born again into the eternal kingdo ...[text shortened]... fering in this world will be thought of as nothing in an eternal Kingdom once the temporary is gone.
@caissad4 saidThere was a war in heaven, due to free will has choices associated with it, if you have it you don't have to do what is right, you can if you choose do what isn't. The heavenly host knew a lot more than we do, and they still used their will to disobey not trusting God, wanting what they wanted. So with much less knowledge than the angelic host that knew God personally in heaven, we will be judging them, those that come to God and are born again will condemn them for the evil they did, and those that have a lot less knowledge about God then many others will also condemn other people who refused God with much more knowledge than others.
Lucifer was in heaven , with free will , and god knew beforehand that he would do what you claim he did but still rewarded him with a domain of sorts on Earth . Satan is clearly unrepentant and and was evil while in heaven . So evil was in heaven except for your trying to twist the truth . I would like to hear Satan's side of that story .
It isn't Satan's side you should be concerning yourself with unless you desire to stand against God here and everywhere else. If that is the case, nothing is required of you, your doing fine. It is only when you decide to turn towards God that you will be swimming against the tide and everything floating downstream where everything goes that doesn't care what direction they are going or doesn't even believe in a direction.
@caissad4 saidWho claims God finds pleasure in wrongdoing, even suggesting God finds pleasure in the punishment begs the question why would He take on our guilt to redeem us if punishment gives Him pleasure? A twisted mind that would accuse God would I suppose, since God hung on a cross for us as a human so we could be redeemed and they still would accuse Him. An evil heart would do that!
More disturbing is someone claiming that god finds pleasure in that .
@kellyjay saidWho claims God finds pleasure in wrongdoing?
Who claims God finds pleasure in wrongdoing, even suggesting God finds pleasure in the punishment begs the question why would He take on our guilt to redeem us if punishment gives Him pleasure? A twisted mind that would accuse God would I suppose, since God hung on a cross for us as a human so we could be redeemed and they still would accuse Him. An evil heart would do that!
Genesis 1:31 - And God saw everything that He had made*, and behold, it was very good and He validated it completely.
* The African eyeworm and bone cancer in babies, just two examples.