Science Negates All of Abrahamic Religions

@kellyjay said
So God who created everything that is not God, who holds it all together by the power of His Word, who is righteousnesses, the only one who is good the lists go on according to you is a tyrant?

Why, because He sees the beginning from the end, giving His full attention to every single particular at the same time, you believe is over the top and unfair? As He tells us what we should and should not do, you don’t think He might have good reasons.

Your God has killed more humans than any tyrant in history.

-Removed-

A human morality which does not apply to God:

1. Do not harm any human through positive action.

2. Do not let any human come to harm through failure to act.

3. Do what your human masters tell you (in so far as it would not infract 1. or 2.).

(Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics.)

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Your God has killed more humans than any tyrant in history.

Speaking as a 'fellow non-theist', his God has killed no one. Literally no one.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Your God has killed more humans than any tyrant in history.

God is the author of life and has set time limits for all life, so I'm not sure why you attach the label tyrant to something that occurs because that is what God does. How many lives have you created, I don't mean procreated.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Still, you'd think even the OT God, in His omniscience, would be more forgiving of accidents or at the very least direct his anger at the stumbling ox.

Why would He have to kill the OX? The whole point was he touched Ark, which should have never been placed on a cart in the first place, it should have been the priest carrying it.

The Holy of Holies could only be entered once a year through the curtain, even the chief priest had to go through ceremonies to enter lest they die, even prophets when confronted with the presence of God were undone. Again, as sinners being confronted with God, we are exposed to the truth by God's presence. Every lie, sin, and evil thing we have ever done would be revealed, nothing is hidden in the light of truth, so we would see ourselves as we are.

That time is fast approaching for all of us, which is why God has sent us a Savior without which there will be none of us saved. Because now unlike before in Christ that curtain that represented the separation of God from man has been torn from top to bottom, heaven to earth so we all can enter and find God not as a judge to condemn us for our sins, but as a Savior because of His love for us.

@moonbus said
Speaking as a 'fellow non-theist', his God has killed no one. Literally no one.

Well, a great many Christians over the centuries have died in his name. (Been burnt at the stake and what not). I'm logging those as indirect killings.

@kellyjay said
God is the author of life and has set time limits for all life,

Please stop regurgitating that depressing nonsense, as though it justifies horiffic divine killings.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Please stop regurgitating that depressing nonsense, as though it justifies horiffic divine killings.

It is going to justify divine life eternal, exposing the evil in man along with the demonic, nothing will be in doubt what needs to be punished. God dealing with evil is messy but clearly when it is all said and done, evil will be manifest leaving no doubt about what is good and what is evil, and when exposed for what it is, everyone who would choose evil over what is Godly will be cast into Hell, and the last enemy will be death itself cast into the lake of fire.

@kellyjay said
It is going to justify divine life eternal, exposing the evil in man along with the demonic, nothing will be in doubt what needs to be punished. God dealing with evil is messy but clearly when it is all said and done, evil will be manifest leaving no doubt about what is good and what is evil, and when exposed for what it is, everyone who would choose evil over what is Godly will be cast into Hell, and the last enemy will be death itself cast into the lake of fire.

You wallow in your evil nature if you wish. I'm going to make the most of life while I have it.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
You wallow in your evil nature if you wish. I'm going to make the most of life while I have it.

I noticed a while back you didn't answer my question on who are the evil people and who are not, what do you use to separate the two?

@kellyjay said
I noticed a while back you didn't answer my question on who are the evil people and who are not, what do you use to separate the two?

I don't recognise the term evil. (Or sin). Most people are an amalgamation of good and bad, though primarily good. (Though there are of course individuals who are especially bad, whether due to nature or nurture).

@ghost-of-a-duke said
I don't recognise the term evil. (Or sin). Most people are an amalgamation of good and bad, though primarily good. (Though there are of course individuals who are especially bad, whether due to nature or nurture).

Well how does that work, there is good and evil, they have evil mixed with some good. A good lie always has a little truth in it to make it believable, how do you work that out?

@kellyjay said
Well how does that work, there is good and evil, they have evil mixed with some good. A good lie always has a little truth in it to make it believable, how do you work that out?

Again, I do not recognize 'evil'. Religion is welcome to keep that one.

By our own moral standards, there is only good and bad. Nobody is perfect.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Well, a great many Christians over the centuries have died in his name. (Been burnt at the stake and what not). I'm logging those as indirect killings.

We are in complete agreement on that score. Let's just be clear who the culprit is: it's people. An imaginary God-figure kills no one.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Again, I do not recognize 'evil'. Religion is welcome to keep that one.

By our own moral standards, there is only good and bad. Nobody is perfect.

You don't make much sense then, you talk about us being a mixed bag but you only acknowledge half the bag. No one is perfect, you know, that's the point.