Jesus "flowing through" people

When Jesus is "flowing through" someone in an online community like this, how can one tell?

Surely such "flowing" has detectable or observable traits?

Surely the evidence that Jesus is "flowing through" someone in an online community is more than them just typing out reams of text citing doctrine?

Thoughts?

@fmf said
When Jesus is "flowing through" someone in an online community like this, how can one tell?

@hakima said
How can one tell?

Well, first off... they don’t announce it.

@fmf said
What about sitting in the pew at the front wearing an extravagant hat and singing loudly?

@fmf said
When Jesus is "flowing through" someone in an online community like this, how can one tell?

Surely such "flowing" has detectable or observable traits?

Surely the evidence that Jesus is "flowing through" someone in an online community is more than them just typing out reams of text citing doctrine?

Thoughts?

@fmf said
When Jesus is "flowing through" someone in an online community like this, how can one tell?

Surely such "flowing" has detectable or observable traits?

Surely the evidence that Jesus is "flowing through" someone in an online community is more than them just typing out reams of text citing doctrine?

Thoughts?

@divegeester said
As far as I know (and I stand to be corrected), the bible doesn’t mention “Jesus flowing through” a person.

@FMF
Whatever "the community" says of course.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Not specifically, but arguably could be inferred from John 15:1:

“I am the true vine, and My Father is the keeper of the vineyard. He cuts off every branch in Me that bears no fruit, and every branch that does bear fruit, He prunes to make it even more fruitful. You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you. Remain in Me, and I will remain in you. ...[text shortened]... fruit by itself unless it remains in the vine, neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in Me."

While "the community" scoffs at God depicting Himself flowing through people, those on the outskirts of "the community" can check this.

The illustration of water flowing through wood to petrify it is a good analogy. I would credit me first hearing this to the late Brother Witness Lee.

Copied from The Divine Dispensing of the Divine Trinity by Witness Lee

The making of petrified wood is a good illustration of the process of transformation through the flowing of the divine life. I have been told that petrified wood is produced by the flowing of a current of water. As the water flows, it brings in the mineral element and carries away the element of wood. This means that through the flowing of the water, the wooden element is replaced by a mineral element. The flow of the current not only produces the increase of the mineral element but also causes transformation. Eventually, after many years, the wood that has been immersed in the flowing of this current is petrified. This is a picture of the process of transformation in the divine life.

@sonship said
While "the community" scoffs at God depicting Himself flowing through people, those on the outskirts of "the community" can check this.

The illustration of water flowing through wood to petrify it is a good analogy. I would credit me first hearing this to the late Brother Witness Lee.

Copied from The Divine Dispensing of the Divine Trinity by Witness Lee
...[text shortened]... on in the divine life. [/quote]

https://www.ministrybooks.org/SearchMinBooksDsp.cfm?id=220CDEFEFB

While "the community" readies its authoritative cynical response here's another speaking on flowing producing transformation for God's building.

What is transformation? Once again I would like to use the example of petrified wood. As water flows through the wood, the element of wood is carried away and the elements of minerals are added in its place. As the mineral elements are wrought into the wood, the wood is transformed into stone. This is petrification. We are wood, and the flow of living water must carry away our natural element and bring into our being all the divine, heavenly, holy, and spiritual elements. In this way we are transformed.

We are weighty because we have God in us. The called ones need to call on the name of Jehovah, El Olam. The more Abraham called on this title of the divine Being, the more weighty he became. God is gold. If we call on Him, we shall become golden. The more we call on the golden God, the more of His golden element will be infused into our being. Consider the difference between wood and petrified wood. Wood is light, but petrified wood is weighty. It is even more weighty than stone, because weighty minerals have been wrought into it. We all were born light, but we have been reborn to be weighty. In addition to our rebirth, we have the process of transformation. The way in which wood becomes petrified is through the continuous flow of water. This flow of water carries away the element of wood and adds in its place the element of various minerals, transforming the wood into a weighty, precious stone.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Not specifically, but arguably could be inferred from John 15:1:

“I am the true vine, and My Father is the keeper of the vineyard. He cuts off every branch in Me that bears no fruit, and every branch that does bear fruit, He prunes to make it even more fruitful. You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you. Remain in Me, and I will remain in you. ...[text shortened]... fruit by itself unless it remains in the vine, neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in Me."

But WHERE in the Bible did it clearly say Jesus would be like flowing water?

In Isaiah 32:2 a prophecy speaks of a Man, a King who will be like streams of water.

"Indeed a King will reign according to righteousness, And rulers will rule according to justice.

And a man will be like a refuge from the wind and a covering from the tempest,
Like streams of water in a dry place.

Like the shadow of a massive rock in a wasted land."

This man is the Son of God. This man is all these things to those who believe in Him.

So Isaiah 32:1,2 speak of a King who is a Man. And what a Man He will be. And this Man, the Son of God, is in the process of fully outworking all these promises.

He will reign in righteousness. He begins by doing so WITHIN some first. He will return to do so from the OUTSIDE too.

He is "as streams of water in a dry place". That means He will flow into and through the fallen people giving them life like water gives life to the desert.

What an all-inclusive and wonderful King this man is. He is also like a massive rock casting a relieving shadow in a wasted land.

THAT'S Jesus Christ folks.

"And a man will be like a REFUGE from the wind
and a covering from the tempest,
Like STREAMS OF WATER in a dry place,

Like the shadow of a massive rock in a wasted land." (Isaiah 32:2)

What a man God sends out of eternity into time, into the world!