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    @Ghost-of-a-Duke
    Is this similar to the Bible virtually speaking about the Trinity?


    You might say that. "Trinity" as a word is not there.

    "We" and "Us" is there in reference to God as well as "He" or "I", "Thou" or "Ye".
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    @sonship said
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    You first coined the phrase way back when.

    It is not scripturally supported.

    Do you also object to Christ's saying - "out of his innermost being shall flow rivers of living water" ? Is that too much for you to accept also?
    There is no “also” because Christ didn’t say “Jesus will flow through people”, you did.
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    @sonship said
    @Ghost-of-a-Duke
    Is this similar to the Bible virtually speaking about the Trinity?

    You might say that. "Trinity" as a word is not there.
    So why capitalise it?
    Why capitalise “Triune” which is also not in the Bible?
    Why capitalise “Third”? As you did earlier.

    No trinity, no fountain of blood, no Jesus flowing through people.
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    @sonship said
    @Ghost-of-a-Duke
    Is this similar to the Bible virtually speaking about the Trinity?


    You might say that. "Trinity" as a word is not there.

    "We" and "Us" is there in reference to God as well as "He" or "I", "Thou" or "Ye".
    The Queen says 'We".
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    @divegeester said
    So why capitalise it?
    Why capitalise “Triune” which is also not in the Bible?
    Why capitalise “Third”? As you did earlier.

    No trinity, no fountain of blood, no Jesus flowing through people.
    There is a long list of phrases used by sonship, which are not in the bible, some of which are in direct conflict with the doctrine of Christ. If sonship removed these phrases from his vocabulary he would be lost for words. If he actually started including only phrases found in the bible he would be on his way to preaching the truth.
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    Jesus taught something "concerning the Spirit". What did He teach?

    "He who believes into Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his innermost being shall flow rivers of living water." This promise is to you who read, to you who read and believe in Jesus Christ the Son of God.

    God's promise "as the Scripture has said" is that the believer in Jesus shall have flowing out of his innermost being the Spirit of God. This will refresh, water, renew, transform, give divine life and do many wonderful things as He [the Spirit] flows.

    Do not let anyone rob you of the joy of this salvation.

    Now WHO is the Spirit? Today the Holy Spirit Who wants to flow out of your innermost being is none other then the resurrected Jesus Christ in His form as "the Spirit of Christ".

    Here we see Paul spoke of "the Spirit of Christ" and "Christ" in a completely INTERGANGEABLE way as he encourages the Christians Romans.

    "But you are not in the flesh, but in the spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Yet if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ he is not of Him. But if Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, the spirit is life because of righteousness." (Rom. 8:19-11)

    Right now today - "The Spirit of God" is the same as "the Spirit of Christ". And "the Spirit of Christ" is the same as "CHRIST".

    So the Spirit of God flowing out of the innermost being of the Christian is "Christ" - Jesus flowing out of his innermost being.

    Jesus flows through people in His form as Christ - "the Spirit of Christ".

    Invite the Lord Jesus Christ to flow into you and through you according to the words of the New Testament.
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    @sonship said
    Jesus taught something "concerning the Spirit". What did He teach?

    "He who believes into Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his innermost being shall flow rivers of living water." This promise is to you who read, to you who read and believe in Jesus Christ the Son of God.

    God's promise "as the Scripture has said" is that the believer in Jesu ...[text shortened]... the Lord Jesus Christ to flow into you and through you according to the words of the New Testament.
    All very nice html’d conjecture.

    The Bible does not, ever, in any translation, use the phase “Jesus flowing through”.

    Nor does it use not, ever, in any translation, the phrase “fountain of blood”

    Nor does it use not, ever, in any translation, the words “trinity” or “triune”.

    These are post biblical phrases and words which have been manufactured to support off centre doctrines and teachings.
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    Christ lives in the Christians. And Christ is "moving". Believers should clear the way in their hearts that He may move freely and flow freely.

    Proverbs 4:23 says "Keep your heart with all vigilance, For from it are the issues of life."

    I like the New American Standard's translation here:
    "Watch over your heart with all diligence, For from it flow the springs of life."

    Two other good renderings in English:
    Amplified Bible
    Watch over your heart with all diligence, For from it flow the springs of life.

    Christian Standard Bible
    Guard your heart above all else, for it is the source of life.


    For the Lord Jesus to flow through us we need to first turn our heart to the Lord Jesus. Then we need to turn again and again, our hearts to Him so that the divine life of Christ may flow out of our hearts.
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    Christ flowing is the joy of the normal church life and the whole city of God's redeemed people.

    Psalm 46:4 (KJV)

    "There is a river, the streams whereof shall make glad the city of God, the holy place of the tabernacles of the most High. "

    Christ flowing gladdens the hearts of the believers. The streams of Christ flowing in man makes the whole city of His redeemed glad.
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    It is spiritual and mystical. It is divine yet practical and real. We can be put into Christ in order to "drink" Christ. We can be immersed into Jesus Christ in order to "drink" in Him in whom we have been plunged.

    Here we see evidence of what is said above. Paul is speaking to the saved sinners in the city of Corinth.

    "For also in one Spirit we were all baptized into one Body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and were all given to drink one Spirit." (1 Cor. 12:13)

    Forgiven sinners are plunged into the Spirit of Christ to be given to "DRINK" that living Spirit into which they have been immersed.

    " . . . and were ALL GIVEN TO DRINK ONE SPIRIT".

    God desires to put you INTO Jesus so that you may quench your spiritual thirst with Jesus. We drink that heavenly beverage into which God baptizes us INTO.

    This is fantastic and wonderful. We can drink Jesus having been immersed into Jesus.

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    23 Feb '21 18:23
    The bible never, not once mentions “Jesus flowing through” a person.

    There’s a reason for that.
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    @divegeester said
    The bible never, not once mentions “Jesus flowing through” a person.

    There’s a reason for that.
    Yeah, Jesus is more of an Abider.
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    Let it be understood that the Jesus flowing as the flowing Spirit is like one's own spirit flowing. His flowing is somewhat of the sense of your own regenerated spirit flowing.

    This is because the two Spirits are one - " He who is joined to the Lord is one spirit" (1 Cor. 6:17)

    This is something to experience and practice. This is something to learn more and more. The words to this Hymn are appropriate to this experience.

    Oh, May My Spirit Flow

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    @caesar-salad said
    Yeah, Jesus is more of an Abider.
    Well spoken, well observed. Seriously.

    You seem to have more understanding of the importance of this nuance than sonship, who is just doubling down on his misstep and hoping he can bury it under a slurry of spammy follow up posts.
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    "Now the Lord is the Spirit." (2 Cor. 3:17).

    The flowing Spirit is the Lord Jesus.
    "But this He said concerning the Spirit whom those who believe into Him were about to receive. For the Spirit was not yet because Jesus was not yet glorified."

    No misstep here. There is just belief in what the New Testament teaches. You just don't believe the New Testament in this.

    Concerning the Spirit - "the last Adam became a life giving Spirit."

    Apathetic as you are, the truth is still there in the New Testament.
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