Prayer & being between a rock and a hard place

@pb1022 said
I think a person who is about to die realizes they are about to confront and personally experience an afterlife they’re uncertain about and I think that causes a great deal of anxiety and fear.

I think a person watching a loved one die realizes there is nothing they can do to protect or change or in any way mitigate the afterlife (if any) their loved one is about to experie ...[text shortened]... ey are about to die and personally experience an afterlife creates some anxiety and maybe even fear.

@kellyjay said
If she did or didn't, it is an experience we can face, and you it seems you want to bludgeon him with it, please stop and think about that. FMF and I go way back, I've insulted him badly, and he has done the same to me, it happens, but if we don't stop step back and look at what we are doing, look at what we are saying, we can be blind to common things we all face. It should ...[text shortened]... e world about the Jesus that did die for us when we were unloveable, and we did unforgivable things.

@pb1022 said
I think a person who is about to die realizes they are about to confront and personally experience an afterlife they’re uncertain about and I think that causes a great deal of anxiety and fear.

I think a person watching a loved one die realizes there is nothing they can do to protect or change or in any way mitigate the afterlife (if any) their loved one is about to experie ...[text shortened]... ey are about to die and personally experience an afterlife creates some anxiety and maybe even fear.

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@kevin-eleven said
Sounds like a lot of thinking and imagination going on there.

@avalanchethecat said
As I said, either you've not experienced both - and I believe this to be the case - or you are deficient in some essential human trait.

@pb1022 said
Same here. I never disputed his reportage - just the conclusions he drew from it.

@PB1022

May I ask you if you pretend to be Christian for the sake of undermining Christianity?

@pb1022 said
Who’s bludgeoning and who’s rejoicing, Kelly Jay? Not me.

You previously claimed praying to God, reading the Holy Bible and watching sermons was a “checklist,” which I think revealed far more about you than you realize.

FMF posted his story in a public forum and by inference solicited opinions. And he made the story about himself.

If he only expected people to say, “H ...[text shortened]... g a loved one die and would *never* make that experience about myself and solicit kudos based on it.

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@pb1022 said
Repeating yourself doesn’t make what you wrote true. But you’re not exactly known for posting true statements, are you 😉

@kevin-eleven said
As for me, instead of drawing or accepting conclusions influenced or provided by a long history of manipulative meme propagation, I prefer to adopt a wait-and-see attitude.

@kellyjay said
If you are using this to bash him because of his stance, you use it as a weapon. I'm not happy about having this conversation with you about this, not even a little bit. If you go back to that checklist conversation, I even apologized to you but if you want to bring that up as something to throw in my face, too, so be it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNoKO_31R38

@avalanchethecat said
This thread has revealed a great deal more about you than I suspect you would be comfortable with if you realised. Your constant accusations of dishonesty towards almost everybody with whom you engage are similarly informative.

@kevin-eleven said
@PB1022

May I ask you if you pretend to be Christian for the sake of undermining Christianity?