Originally posted by twhiteheadYes, I know, but it does not really matter because I quoted from sources that know more about it that any of us.
It does matter if you make a claim that is based on knowing what it means, but you don't know what it means. That means you are basically lying, or talking nonsense - and you know that you are doing so.
Here a video that explains how carbon 14 dating is supposed to work and the problems.
-Removed-"... you completely misread the context of my post."
Then what do you mean by, "My contention with you is that you imagine and believe in an eternal hell where your particular version of the Christian god tortures people by burning them in an incinerator - for all eternity."
Have you not read and comprehended what is said in the Word of God concerning the eternal destination of all those that reject Christ?
Yes, we are trying to convince you that it is true, not because we say so, but because God says so.
You don't have to believe it. No one is twisting your arm.
-Removed-What the Righteousness of God rejects [sin], the Justice of God must punish. Otherwise. He would deny His own Integrity. Christ took that punishment [substitutionary spiritual death/separation from God the Father] for divegeester, Grampy Bobby and the rest of humanity] at the Golgotha Crucifixion. This act of obedience made possible His free gift of salvation.
"The righteousness that God requires for a person to be saved is the perfect righteousness a righteous God is required to require. (Matt. 5:48) Thus the only way to be saved is by grace (God's undeserved forgiveness and favor) through faith (in what God in Christ did for us on the cross when He took the punishment for all of our sins and credited us with His perfect righteousness), and not by works[/i] (Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Cor. 5:21)." Thread 157295
http://www.kenboa.org/text_resources/teaching_letters/lens_mens_fellowship/6640 (Page 7)
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"The free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." (Romans 6:23b) Those who escape eternal condemnation do so strictly by their personal faith in Jesus Christ. No one goes to the Lake of Fire except by his or her own negative volition in rejecting God's Grace Gift of salvation and eternal life. God is equally as fair in providing the believer with eternal salvation as in casting the unbeliever into the Lake of Fire. God's love doesn't deny the solidarity of His righteousness and justice.
-Removed-Originally posted by divegeester
No Christian is arguing that hell doesn't exist in some form, why do you keep copy pasting masses of stuff that is irrelevant?
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
The focus of Dunn's articles and this entire thread isn't divegeester; it's our friends here who have chosen against Christ.
Have you or haven't you placed your personal faith in Jesus Christ? If so, please realize the focus of this thread. Thanks.