Brunei's new laws

@divegeester said
Absolutely; it’s a horrific attack on human rights and the civilised world should protest in the strongest terms.

On a note of protesting, I find it astonishing that none of the vocal contributors to the debates forum started a thread on this topic. There are recent threads on Trumps German father buffoonery, how to use swear words on RHP without getting modded and Fo ...[text shortened]... ut nothing at from the liberal community on this as there wasn’t on Corbyn and the antisemitism row.

Absolutely? 😮

@fmf said
Some of it is OK. Some of it strikes me as "evil", yes. I oppose capital punishment; I don't think homosexuality, in and of itself, is immoral; and I don't think adultery is any of the government's business aside from the courts presiding over contested divorces. Do you think the Sultan of Brunei's new laws are "evil"?

Well that is an opinion!

@kellyjay said
Well that is an opinion!

'Opinions' are the product of our moral and intellectual reasoning. Why speak of opinions as if they were a bad thing?

@kellyjay said
Well that is an opinion!

Do you think the Sultan of Brunei's new laws are "evil"?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
'Opinions' are the product of our moral and intellectual reasoning. Why speak of opinions as if they were a bad thing?

If all we have is saying we think it’s “evil” and all we are really admitting to is I don’t like it. Those doing it have a different opinion being raised differently so one view nullified the other.

@kellyjay said
If all we have is saying we think it’s “evil” and all we are really admitting to is I don’t like it. Those doing it have a different opinion being raised differently so one view nullified the other.

Does your moral "north star" make you believe the Sultan of Brunei's new laws are "evil"?

@suzianne said
This is the first I've heard of this, Junior.

Why is there a gap between Lyons and Spakowski?

@fmf said
Does your moral "north star" make you believe the Sultan of Brunei's new laws are "evil"?

Why would that matter, you looking for the popular opinion of the day, knowing things might change tomorrow?

@fmf said
Do you think the Sultan of Brunei's new laws are "evil"?

Good luck getting a straight answer 😆

@kellyjay said
If all we have is saying we think it’s “evil” and all we are really admitting to is I don’t like it. Those doing it have a different opinion being raised differently so one view nullified the other.

People have different opinions, yes. (Including on what is evil).

Welcome to reality.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
People have different opinions, yes. (Including on what is evil).

Welcome to reality.

Which means that there isn’t any real evil, just those things we disliked passionately?

@kellyjay said
Which means that there isn’t any real evil, just those things we disliked passionately?

Do you regard the new Brunei laws as being immoral?

@kellyjay said
Which means that there isn’t any real evil, just those things we disliked passionately?

Okay, you've convinced me. There is no such thing as evil.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Okay, you've convinced me. There is no such thing as evil.

Or good?

@kellyjay said
Or good?

I'm prepared to extrapolate that if there is no ultimate bad (evil/Satan) there is no ultimate good (God).

If you just mean 'good' in the general sense then you are erroneous in your assumption that the opposite of good is evil. The opposite of good is bad, not evil. To put 'bad' and 'evil' in the same pot places the boy who pulls the legs of spiders side by side with the serial killer.