@athousandyoung saidBUMP
Why are you ignoring my questions about Lennox Lewis, Rishi Sunak, Catpower25, Moroccan Arabs and the Jewish diaspora? In particular this whole thread is about Catpower25 being treated as "not Irish" because he's not pure blooded and here you are constantly harping on about Irishness and Celticness being about blood quanta.
-Removed-I agree with you, I still 'feel' Welsh. But obviously I am not.
A typical Welsh surname passed from my father, which he was passed from his father; 'Knowing' my father's family were from Wales and he had been brought up there, learning Welsh customs etc. All those things makes me 'feel' Welsh.
But I'm not.
It's a complex thing, how people feel.
Presumably the DNA is a truth. I think we're still working out what that truth tells us about ourselves.
I never 'felt' English growing up, I was always told about where my ancestors had come from and England was a small, not insignificant part but less than a quarter. But according to my DNA it's the majority.
So I do agree with you Dive
-Removed-It's a shame people can't make a claim for themselves and have others accept it.
But I guess we have people saying they feel they are all kinds of things that others find difficult to accept, feeling like a different gender to the one their parents thought they looked at birth, for example.
It's a mind field out there!
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-Removed-minefield, you're right, that's the expression.
Interesting though, isn't it, that if you met Sonhouse or saw him playing his Irish tunes. Or you met me and I had a Welsh accent and talked about how we burned down the cottages the English bought up for holiday homes, when ours couldn't afford them to live in: you'd likely accept Sonhouse was Irish and I was Welsh.
If you met a woman who had large hands you might well accept she was always a woman until someone said otherwise to you.
@yo-its-me saidI believe we get about 52% of our dna from our mothers, probably the only thing we get from our ancient paternal lines is our names and an indicator of regional origins.
I agree with you, I still 'feel' Welsh. But obviously I am not.
A typical Welsh surname passed from my father, which he was passed from his father; 'Knowing' my father's family were from Wales and he had been brought up there, learning Welsh customs etc. All those things makes me 'feel' Welsh.
But I'm not.
It's a complex thing, how people feel.
Presumably the DNA is a ...[text shortened]... art but less than a quarter. But according to my DNA it's the majority.
So I do agree with you Dive
@yo-its-me saidPerhaps it’s human nature to cling to any victimhood driftwood we come across in our ocean of heritage.
minefield, you're right, that's the expression.
Interesting though, isn't it, that if you met Sonhouse or saw him playing his Irish tunes. Or you met me and I had a Welsh accent and talked about how we burned down the cottages the English bought up for holiday homes, when ours couldn't afford them to live in: you'd likely accept Sonhouse was Irish and I was Welsh.
If ...[text shortened]... ho had large hands you might well accept she was always a woman until someone said otherwise to you.
The English didn’t buy them cottages rich people did and it’s going on all over the UK, I’ve said it before celts love a chip.
@kevcvs57 saidIt was just an example! I was thinking to think of a way that would appear 'Welsh'
Perhaps it’s human nature to cling to any victimhood driftwood we come across in our ocean of heritage.
The English didn’t buy them cottages rich people did and it’s going on all over the UK, I’ve said it before celts love a chip.
Guess I could have said if I was wearing a leek!!
@kevcvs57 saidI wonder why you think that. According to the DNA test I did, it's exactly 50% from one and 50% from the other.
I believe we get about 52% of our dna from our mothers, probably the only thing we get from our ancient paternal lines is our names and an indicator of regional origins.
There was recently a baby, and apparent there are 4 people with three peoples DNA!!