@divegeester
Because my GENES are Irish you fukhead. I could get Irish citizenship if I wanted bad enough.
BTW Dive, I am a professional Irish musician, MANY gigs around the country including nationally broadcast TV so I got into the Irish thing pretty heavily, spent YEARS learning Irish tunes and now writing new tunes, which I post to Soundcloud and have close to 300 tracks there so there is that.
@sonhouse saidthere seems to be some confusion about the genetics of Ireland, we are primarily celts, haplogroup R1b is the dominant male gene 80% (Gaelic),haplogroup R-L21 is a subgroup 65% with links to the basque region , there is also viking (norse gaels),anglo normans and in my case a spot of african/morocan.mix all that together and I am 100% Irish.
@divegeester
Because my GENES are Irish you fukhead. I could get Irish citizenship if I wanted bad enough.
BTW Dive, I am a professional Irish musician, MANY gigs around the country including nationally broadcast TV so I got into the Irish thing pretty heavily, spent YEARS learning Irish tunes and now writing new tunes, which I post to Soundcloud and have close to 300 tracks there so there is that.
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@athousandyoung saidScottish, Welsh, Basque, Kurdish, North Western French… Cornish…
How can I be a Celt if I’m not Irish?
Quite a lot of us aren’t Irish.
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@shavixmir saidBasques and Kurds aren't Celts you silly fellow. Perhaps you are confusing the Kurds with the ancient Galatians.
Scottish, Welsh, Basque, Kurdish, North Western French… Cornish…
Quite a lot of us aren’t Irish.
I doubt Kevin thinks I am a Scot, Welsh, Cornish or Breton. My best claim to Celtic ancestry is my roughly 25% Irish blood and an inherited bitterness about the Famine.
@catpower25 saidVikings weren't "Norse Gaels" they were Germanics. Otherwise sounds accurate to me.
there seems to be some confusion about the genetics of Ireland, we are primarily celts, haplogroup R1b is the dominant male gene 80% (Gaelic),haplogroup R-L21 is a subgroup 65% with links to the basque region , there is also viking (norse gaels),anglo normans and in my case a spot of african/morocan.mix all that together and I am 100% Irish.
The Scots-Irish could be argued to be a Norse-Gaelic mixture I suppose.
@athousandyoung saidYour not getting it the actual Irish do not have the same chip on their shoulder about it, maybe because they stuck it out in Ireland and possibly gained from the masses of their people leaving their smallholdings to gain charitable support in the towns and cities. Americans of Irish descent still see the potato famine as current affairs because that’s when they left Ireland, their 19th century Irish grievance culture has been captured in aspic.if you’ve internalised the culture of grievance then that’s what you are for the purposes of this topic
Glad you've come around to realizing that it is neither blood nor birthplace that makes a person Irish but cultural factors instead e.g. resentment of the Famine.
I am English I never think of myself as Scottish or Irish or whatever other bloodlines I have in my mongrel veins. That does not mean I’m proud to acknowledge those bloodlines.
That’s what I think is concerning in terms of the cohesion of the US.
