@moonbus saidMasks are not a solution at all.
Because masks are only part of the solution.
More people wearing masks isn't going to help unless a) other measures are also implemented and b) there is a high level of compliance. If three people in a closely packed crowd of 500 wear masks, it isn't going to help much, even if those three people represent a threefold increase over the previous crowd.
The reason why Am ...[text shortened]... supporters who recently rallied near the WH: most of the people in the crowd were not wearing masks.
U.S. Surgeon General Jerome Adams explained specifically why they don't work early on.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/surgeon-general-explains-masks-public-coronavirus
He then explained the reasons why.
“On an individual level, there was a study in 2015 looking at medical students and medical students wearing surgical masks touch their face on average 23 times,” Adams explained. “We know a major way that you can get respiratory diseases like coronavirus is by touching a surface and then touching your face so wearing a mask improperly can actually increase your risk of getting disease.”
Adams went on to say that wearing a face mask “can also give you a false sense of security." He added that "you see many of these pictures with people out and about closer than six feet to each other, but still wearing a mask.”
He noted that there are also consequences to wearing masks.
“We still have PPE [Personal protective equipment] shortages across the country,” Adams noted. “The WHO mentioned this in their statement so we want to make sure we are reserving PPE for the people who most need it. That's how you are going to get the largest effect because if healthcare workers get sick, they can't take care of you when you get sick.”
He wasn't making it up. There are real reasons face masks do more harm than good.
@Metal-Brain
"He wasn't making it up. There are real reasons face masks do more harm than good."
Yup. Yet they will insist we wear them lest we face heavy fines.
They have nothing to offer us. So they pick "the mask" to make it look like they are protecting us,
They're not. They can't. Nor can they admit it.
@lemon-lime saidWell... it appears my a-steamed colleague will not be coming here to back me up.
A fart particle has the characteristics of both a particle and a wave... and it travels very fast.
if you don't believe me ask sonhouse
@earl-of-trumps saidNot sure about states other than MI, but here all you have to do is assert your rights. Say you have a medical exemption. Simple.
@Metal-Brain
"He wasn't making it up. There are real reasons face masks do more harm than good."
Yup. Yet they will insist we wear them lest we face heavy fines.
They have nothing to offer us. So they pick "the mask" to make it look like they are protecting us,
They're not. They can't. Nor can they admit it.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/09/allan-stevo/even-whitmers-mask-edicts-have-loopholes/
North Dakota records world's highest COVID-19 mortality rate
TheHill.com
North Dakota records world's highest COVID-19 mortality rate
BY ZACK BUDRYK - 11/17/20 12:29 PM EST 1,485
North Dakota’s coronavirus mortality rate is the highest of any U.S. state or country, according to an analysis of data from last week conducted by the Federation of American Scientists.
The analysis, first reported by HuffPost, shows that North Dakota has a rate of 18.2 deaths per 1 million people. South Dakota, meanwhile, has 17.4 deaths per million, the third-worst rate in the world. The states have a total population of under 2 million.
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I'd like to point out that last April we had no masks, now we do. This surge is far more viral and deadly.
MASKS AND SOCIAL DISTANCING IS NOT THE ANSWER.
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/526324-north-dakota-records-worlds-highest-covid-19-mortality-rate
@metal-brain saidSo this guy is arguing that masks be excluded from PPE in hospitals is he?
Masks are not a solution at all.
U.S. Surgeon General Jerome Adams explained specifically why they don't work early on.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/surgeon-general-explains-masks-public-coronavirus
He then explained the reasons why.
“On an individual level, there was a study in 2015 looking at medical students and medical students wearing surgical masks touch ...[text shortened]... you get sick.”
He wasn't making it up. There are real reasons face masks do more harm than good.
The next time you go for surgery you’d better make sure the O.R staff are not wearing masks.
Utterly retarded argument. Hanky’s work, Masks work, especially when combined with social distancing, hand washing and some lockdown measures, end of debate.
@lemon-lime saidLoL
Well... it appears my a-steamed colleague will not be coming here to back me up.
sonhouse has a temper these days 😆
I'll go see if I can find him 🤔
@earl-of-trumps saidPlease Earl, if you have 1000 peple who can infect how many infections and if you have one Million with even a much smaller reproduction rate how many?
North Dakota records world's highest COVID-19 mortality rate
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TheHill.com
North Dakota records world's highest COVID-19 mortality rate
BY ZACK BUDRYK - 11/17/20 12:29 PM EST 1,485
North Dakota’s coronavirus mortality rate is the highest of any U.S. state or country, according to an analysis of data from last week conducted by the Federation of Americ ...[text shortened]... s://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/526324-north-dakota-records-worlds-highest-covid-19-mortality-rate
China made, the USA didn't.
And please watch this Video and tell me About freedom:
https://www.volvocars.com/de/v/car-safety/a-million-more
@kevcvs57 saidNo. Why would you think that?
So this guy is arguing that masks be excluded from PPE in hospitals is he?
The next time you go for surgery you’d better make sure the O.R staff are not wearing masks.
Utterly retarded argument. Hanky’s work, Masks work, especially when combined with social distancing, hand washing and some lockdown measures, end of debate.
@metal-brain saidBecause masks don’t work, or do they just not work in politicised scenarios?
No. Why would you think that?
You cannot have it both ways either they have an impact on person to person cross infection or they don’t.
@ponderable saidI watched it.
Please Earl, if you have 1000 peple who can infect how many infections and if you have one Million with even a much smaller reproduction rate how many?
China made, the USA didn't.
And please watch this Video and tell me About freedom:
https://www.volvocars.com/de/v/car-safety/a-million-more
I'm surprised at you, Pondy. This thread has nothing to do with infomercials about seat belts. In German, to boot. lol
@Cheesemaster
So you want US to do your research for you.
Why don't you actually ask a scientist or even google the question?
Your question just shows you are not interested in the answer but ONLY interested in knocking down ANY real answer.
You fool nobody.
You are a cultist Troll, card carrying Trump cultist.
