Europe increasingly right wing

@vivify said
Russia is not communist and never has been.

Don’t be silly.

Or are you going to try to duck behind “the Soviet Union”?

@vivify said

Russia is an anti-democratic dictatorship, making it right wing.

Are you going to continue to double down by claiming that fascism cannot be left-wing/communist?

@divegeester said
Are you going to continue to double down by claiming that fascism cannot be left-wing/communist?

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/fascism

Fascism develops from right-wing extremism

Go argue with Cambridge.

@vivify said
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/fascism

Fascism develops from right-wing extremism

Go argue with Cambridge.

huullloooooo

Nazi > national socialist > socialism = left wing

@wajoma said
huullloooooo

Nazi > national socialist > socialism = left wing

So you think North Korea is democratic because they claim they are?

Stop using stupid arguments.

@vivify said
So you think North Korea is democratic because they claim they are?

Stop using stupid arguments.

Well, vivify, there is something to be said for elections.

Elections in North Korea are held every four-to-five years for the Supreme People's Assembly (SPA), the country's national legislature, and every four years for Local People's Assemblies. All seats are won by the Democratic Front for the Reunification of the Fatherland. -------------- Wiki

@shavixmir said
England is moving futher right as well.

Moving? Surely you mean, revealing?

@vivify said
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/fascism

Fascism develops from right-wing extremism

Go argue with Cambridge.

“All of Europe is moving far right”

No, all of it isn’t.

@divegeester said
Are you going to continue to double down by claiming that fascism cannot be left-wing/communist?

Obviously it can’t. They’re opposites.

@shavixmir said
Obviously it can’t. They’re opposites.

Now you’re being silly too.
Communism is extreme far left and the soviet block was fascist.
You’ve even recently claimed to be a communist yourself!

What is is with you guys, you think you have cornered the market on social morality on something?

@divegeester said
Now you’re being silly too.
Communism is extreme far left and the soviet block was fascist.
You’ve even recently claimed to be a communist yourself!

What is is with you guys, you think you have cornered the market on social morality on something?

Look up the definition of communism.
Look up the definition of fascism.

See. They’re completely different.

In the USSR the State took over the role of corporations. They did not mandate power to the producing classes.

So, it was more state-capitalism, than communism.
That combined with fascistic elements, like the whole gulag thing, makes it fascist than communist.

@divegeester said
Now you’re being silly too.
Communism is extreme far left and the soviet block was fascist.
You’ve even recently claimed to be a communist yourself!

What is is with you guys, you think you have cornered the market on social morality on something?

Nonsense the Soviets were at war with the Fascists

@shavixmir said
Look up the definition of communism.
Look up the definition of fascism.

See. They’re completely different.

In the USSR the State took over the role of corporations. They did not mandate power to the producing classes.

So, it was more state-capitalism, than communism.
That combined with fascistic elements, like the whole gulag thing, makes it fascist than communist.

You said last week on here, that you are a communist. You’ve also said that you are a hard left socialist. Clearly these names and definitions aren’t very helpful in understanding wether or nor “all of Europe is moving far right”.

What we see happening in Italy and the probably outcome of the election is a direct response to mass uncontrolled immigration over years and years. If a country doesn’t control its borders the extreme right get a political foothold. It’s obvious.

@athousandyoung said
Nonsense the Soviets were at war with the Fascists

Must be one of the stupidest comments in recent weeks.
Fascists fight fascists so one of them can’t be fascist.

Barring Metal Brain of course.

@divegeester said
Must be one of the stupidest comments in recent weeks.
Fascists fight fascists so one of them can’t be fascist.

Barring Metal Brain of course.

Oh please.

Obviously the MB comment is correct though.