What is the point of eternal suffering?

@secondson said
False. The Bible teaches that those who reject Christ with be judged and go into outer darkness. Regardless of what YOU say.

Well your post is merely only what “YOU” say.

@secondson said
I have opinions. I have beliefs, and I have firm convictions.

Hell is real.

I know you do, I know.

@divegeester said
No it isn’t, it is what mainstream corporate Christianity has taught for centuries in order to control people by literally putting the fear of God into them.

Are you familiar with "the way of Cain" that Jude talks about?

Are you familiar with the concepts associated with Babylon that permeates this world system and has infected the church?

I am fully cognizant of what you call "mainstream corporate Christianity". I grew up in it, as did most others.

But you're confusing the issue with it.

I'm concerned with what the Bible says, and not what Babylonianism has to say.

Jesus clearly taught that there is a judgment coming. There is dire consequence to rejecting God's salvation in Christ.

There can be no denial of that. Judgment and everlasting punishment is clearly taught in scripture.

@divegeester said
Well your post is merely only what “YOU” say.

And I said what Jesus said.

Got a problem with that?

@divegeester said
I know you do, I know.

Well, after all, I wouldn't want to be misunderstood.

@caissad4 said
Sorry, but 2 Peter has known to be a fraud for decades by biblical historians. I mean Christian historians regard it as a fraud.

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@kellyjay said
zzzz

That is what is to be expected from the Lalalalalalal Christian.
I give historical fact and the response is sleepy time.

@caissad4 said
That is what is to be expected from the Lalalalalalal Christian.
I give historical fact and the response is sleepy time.

What fact was it you gave me, someone disagrees with the 2 Peter, and they call themselves Christian. Okay, ya, sure and even here there are people who claim other parts of the Bible are not real scripture and I reject their opinions too, but you think because you say it, it is now important and a historical fact?

@kellyjay said
What fact was it you gave me, someone disagrees with the 2 Peter, and they call themselves Christian. Okay, ya, sure and even here there are people who claim other parts of the Bible are not real scripture and I reject their opinions too, but you think because you say it, it is now important and a historical fact?

You are some kind of fantasy Christian. You believe what you believe and the truth be damned.

@secondson said
I am fully cognizant of what you call "mainstream corporate Christianity". I grew up in it, as did most others.
But you're confusing the issue with it.

How am I “confusing” what mainstream Christianity says when I say that it holds to the eternal suffering doctrine, it does?

@secondson said
Are you familiar with "the way of Cain" that Jude talks about?

Yes.what has it got to do with any point there is to eternal suffering?

@secondson said
Are you familiar with the concepts associated with Babylon that permeates this world system and has infected the church?

Yes, what has it got to do with any point of eternal suffering?

@secondson said
And I said what Jesus said.
Got a problem with that?

Only that your are misrepresenting Jesus.

@secondson said
Well, after all, I wouldn't want to be misunderstood.

Then maybe you should answer straightforward questions that put to you instead of hiding.

E.g. FMF’s question to you in the “Assurance of Salvation” thread and another of his in the “Eleven Reasons for Assurance of Salvation” thread.

Both of which pointed directly at your habitual avoidance of being unequivocal about the doctrine of eternal suffering and your acknowledgment exactly what it is and who here believes it.

@caissad4 said
You are some kind of fantasy Christian. You believe what you believe and the truth be damned.

We disagree on what is true.