Originally posted by FetchmyjunkThis "moral absolutes" is a piece of terminology - along with "universal truths" and "objective [blah blah blah]" you attach to your own personal opinions about moral matters. Yes, you're right, I cannot think of any situation where a genocide would be justified. Meanwhile, you can. So much for you and your self-aggrandizing labels.
You say there are no moral absolutes yet you cannot think of any situation where a genocide or rape would be justified.
Originally posted by FMFI told you before I see the events of the Old testament to be comparable to military action against the likes of ISIS. It is not the same as genocide.
Well I am not superstitious, while you are. I have absolutely no reason on earth to believe that a "god" ordered the Hebrews to carry out a genocide. So it's a rather ludicrous hypothetical.
So, instead, because this god figure is NOT hypothetical to you, why don't you - as a believer in a god who you adamantly believe does not need to demonstrate or comply ...[text shortened]... some point in the history of the Hebrew ~ would it be morally justifiable from your perspective?
If you assume there are no moral absolutes you have to agree that any action can be morally justifiable, whether you can imagine a situation or not.
God reveals himself through the Bible, the Bible has not told me to kill or rape anyone.
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkYou have dodged the question.
I told you before I see the events of the Old testament to be comparable to military action against the likes of ISIS. It is not the same as genocide.
If you assume there are no moral absolutes you have to agree that any action can be morally justifiable, whether you can imagine a situation or not.
God reveals himself through the Bible, the Bible has not told me to kill or rape anyone.
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Originally posted by FetchmyjunkI see nothing wrong with taking "military action against a group similar to ISIS". What on earth are you on about? We are discussing genocide, not taking military action against ISIS.
The same way you dodged mine: If God did in fact exist, and did in fact command military action against a group similar to ISIS why would it always be wrong if you assume there are no moral absolutes?
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkIf the God [that you say does in fact exist] commanded you to rape non-Christian women ~ or commanded his supposed followers to rape non-Jewish women at some point in the history of the Hebrews ~ would it be morally justifiable from your perspective?
God reveals himself through the Bible, the Bible has not told me to kill or rape anyone.
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkIs this what you would call an "objective" or a "subjective" point of view on what "genocide" is?
I told you before I see the events of the Old testament to be comparable to military action against the likes of ISIS. It is not the same as genocide.
Originally posted by FMFHow would he hypothetically be telling me to do this?
If the God [that you say does in fact exist] commanded you to rape non-Christian women ~ or commanded his supposed followers to rape non-Jewish women at some point in the history of the Hebrews ~ would it be morally justifiable from your perspective?