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Originally posted by FetchmyjunkYou deeming your personal preferences about moral issues to be "the only correct morality" has got you nowhere in this discussion as far as I am concerned. If you believe your intellectual behaviour in this community - on this topic - has got something to do with a supernatural being, then good for you.
From your point of view yes indeed since from your perspective all morality boils down to a matter of personal preference since you believe there are no moral absolutes that have been revealed to us by God.
But we both know that doesn't coincide with reality since we both can agree that certain actions are always wrong regardless of our personal preference.
Originally posted by FMFI have not argued that my personal preferences are moral absolutes. I am arguing that certain moral absolutes do exist regardless of what our personal preferences are.
You deeming your personal preferences about moral issues to be "the only correct morality" has got you nowhere in this discussion as far as I am concerned. If you believe your intellectual behaviour in this community - on this topic - has got something to do with a supernatural being, then good for you.
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkIt's my description of what you have been doing. I do not need your agreement about it.
I have not argued that my personal preferences are moral absolutes.
People can judge for themselves here on Thread 171350
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Originally posted by FMFI have always maintained that I believe moral absolutes do exist and these moral absolutes are not dependant on what other people might think. For example the holocaust is always wrong even if everyone on earth were to think it wasn't. In essence, evil is evil even if everyone is for it and good is good even if everyone is against it.
It's my description of what you have been doing. I do not need your agreement about it.
People can judge for themselves here on Thread 171350
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkAnd yet you have repeatedly downplayed the evil of the Holocaust. And you defended genocide when the ancient Hebrews carried it out.
I have always maintained that I believe moral absolutes do exist and these moral absolutes are not dependant on what other people might think. For example the holocaust is always wrong even if everyone on earth were to think it wasn't. In essence, evil is evil even if everyone is for it and good is good even if everyone is against it.
Originally posted by FMFHow do you feel I have downplayed the evil of the Holocaust?
And yet you have repeatedly downplayed the evil of the Holocaust. And you defended genocide when the ancient Hebrews carried it out.
I compare the actions of the Hebrews to the actions of any military actions against the likes of ISIS.
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkYou stated that, according to your moral compass and your superstitions, someone getting angry with their brother is equally as "evil" as murdering 6,000,000 Jews in extermination camps. That is about as an egregious downplaying of the "evil" of the Holocaust as I can ever remember encountering.
How do you feel I have downplayed the evil of the Holocaust?
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Originally posted by FMFI simply sated that I was not in a position to judge whether one sin is worse than another and that God was in a better position to do so. I did say both actions I believe to be evil because the Bible seems to say so. I shall gladly retract that statement as I see how it can be perceived to be downplaying the evil of the Holocaust. I believe the Holocaust is and always will be evil regardless of what anyone would say.
You stated that, according to your moral compass and your superstitions, someone getting angry with their brother is equally as "evil" as murdering 6,000,000 Jews in extermination camps. That is about as an egregious downplaying of the "evil" of the Holocaust as I can ever remember encountering.
Originally posted by FMFWhat God says is wrong is always wrong and God is in the best position to judge. I believe military action against the likes of ISIS may be warranted but simply exterminating another race for no reason is always wrong.
And in so doing, you defended genocide. Isn't 'genocide is wrong' one of your "moral absolutes"? Apparently not.
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkI am already familiar with your defence of genocide; there really is no need for you repeat it.
What God says is wrong is always wrong and God is in the best position to judge. I believe military action against the likes of ISIS may be warranted but simply exterminating another race for no reason is always wrong.
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkIt was about as outrageous an attempt to downplay the Holocaust as I have ever comer across. I have pressed you on the matter for months and months and you have stood by it. Right this minute you seem to find it inconvenient that you said it. Your retraction is meaningless to me. Others may be impressed by it.
I simply sated that I was not in a position to judge whether one sin is worse than another and that God was in a better position to do so. I did say both actions I believe to be evil because the Bible seems to say so. I shall gladly retract that statement as I see how it can be perceived to be downplaying the evil of the Holocaust. I believe the Holocaust is and always will be evil regardless of what anyone would say.
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkSounds to me like your convoluted superstitions have left you spiritually and morally handicapped.
I simply sated that I was not in a position to judge whether one sin [getting angry with your brother] is worse than another [murdering 6,000,000 people] and that God was in a better position to do so.