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Originally posted by FMF
You can call it what you want. I don't make the claim.

But surely if you object to calling it a universal truth, you should be able to tell me why you think it isn't.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Surely as an ex-Christian you should know what the Bible says about the issue?

What a peculiarly evasive response.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
But surely if you object to calling it a universal truth, you should be able to tell me why you think it isn't.

I've been telling you for 30+ pages.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
The discussion now should be how do you explain the existence of these absolutes if you think God has no say over morality.

We are pack animals. A group, a tribe, a team. We are empathic and we work together.

And we get to love the gods or not as we choose.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Surely as an ex-Christian you should know what the Bible says about the issue?

Speaking as a Christian, do you believe that the assertion "homosexuality is immoral" is one of these "universal truths" you talk about?

Originally posted by FMF
Nevertheless, you find yourself justifying genocide while in the process of insisting that your moral compass is one that embodies "universal truths".

Whatever you personally happen to believe about Christ is neither here nor there to me.

You have been repeatedly accusing me of having a moral code that would be open to justifying genocide, when I don't, ...[text shortened]... to the word "truth" when you peddle your own superstitious perspectives, it does nothing for me.

If ISIS could only be stopped from killing innocent people by wiping out every last one of them, would you consider such an act of genocide to be morally justifiable?

PS: Don't have time now but will respond to your other posts tomorrow.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Don't have time now but will respond to your other posts tomorrow.

Good to hear. You need to go back 30+ pages and respond to dozens of my posts.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Polytheism makes no logical sense.

Lots and lots of gods are put forth by people, so there is that. This can be explained by psychology. But why, in your opinion, if there is an actual god, can there be no others?

If good and evil is subjective, then it changes according to personal preference.
This is known to be correct. You get to decide right from wrong, and so does everyone else.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
If ISIS could only be stopped from killing innocent people by wiping out every last one of them, would you consider such an act of genocide to be morally justifiable?

Huh? "An act of genocide" against whom? Do you mean military action against an army? Against guerrilla fighters? Against terrorists? How would such actions be "genocide"? You mean military against civilians who would like to see a caliphate?

Wait. You'll probably now go 10 pages without responding to this request for clarification.

So. Regardless of whatever wretchedly half-baked and ludicrous scenario you have in mind, I will pose the question myself: Would I consider "an act of genocide" in connection with the armed conflict with "ISIS" to be morally justifiable? No, I wouldn't.

Would I consider "an act of genocide" ~ in connection with any crisis, dispute or conflict ~ to be morally justifiable? No, I wouldn't.

What about you? Same questions.

-Removed-

I believe only God has the right to orchestrate such an event. I have given you my thoughts, now tell me what you believe.

Originally posted by FMF
What a peculiarly evasive response.

You know my stance on the Bible. Do you not know what the Bible says on the issue?

Originally posted by apathist
We are pack animals. A group, a tribe, a team. We are empathic and we work together.

And we get to love the gods or not as we choose.

If there is no God, then there are no moral absolutes. Which means morality is really a matter of personal preference.

Originally posted by apathist
Lots and lots of gods are put forth by people, so there is that. This can be explained by psychology. But why, in your opinion, if there is an actual god, can there be no others?

[b]If good and evil is subjective, then it changes according to personal preference.
This is known to be correct. You get to decide right from wrong, and so does everyone else.[/b]

But why, in your opinion, if there is an actual god, can there be no others?

To me the idea of monotheism makes more sense. There can not be 2 kings in a kingdom. Presence of 2 or more sources of supreme authority doesn't make sense.

This is known to be correct. You get to decide right from wrong, and so does everyone else.

This does mean however that you cannot say with certainty that your idea of what is good or evil is correct and someone else, who has the opposite belief is wrong. Any action would only be subjectively wrong. The concept of good and evil only makes sense if there is a clear distinction between the two.