Originally posted by FetchmyjunkIf you don't wish to say whether you think the notion that 'homosexuality is immoral' is an example of one of the "universal truths" that you have been talking about on this thread, then so be it.
Do you think that my opinions about what the Bible says about homosexuality are different from what the Bible actually says? In other words, if I were to believe that homosexuality is wrong because I think the Bible says so, would you agree that the Bible does in fact say so or do you disagree?
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkNo thanks. It will merely become a platform for your piss taking trolling routine. I don't have a moral objection to military action against a terrorist organisation or military/armed combatants. You seem to think I do. But I don't.
Take any scenario in the old testament that you object to morally.
Originally posted by FMFSo do you or don't you have any moral objection to what is written in the old testament?
No thanks. It will merely become a platform for your piss taking trolling routine. I don't have a moral objection to military action against a terrorist organisation or military/armed combatants. You seem to think I do. But I don't.
Originally posted by FMFIf I have missed any of your questions feel free to ask them again, I shall respond. I don't exactly have the time to read every single post on this thread to check whether I may have missed something.
There have been observations and questions of mine you have been ignoring for 30+ pages. It would be appreciated if you'd go back and respond to them.
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkI don't accept the moral justification for genocide that you copy pasted from a web site on page 45 of this thread. On page 48, I gave you a clear statement of my views on genocide in an immediate and point blank response to your question and yet you just blanked it out.
So do you or don't you have any moral objection to what is written in the old testament?
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkAre you saying you didn't have the time to read every single post on this that was addressed to you?
If I have missed any of your questions feel free to ask them again, I shall respond. I don't exactly have the time to read every single post on this thread to check whether I may have missed something.
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkI don't seek to use the word "universal" in the same way or for the same reason as you. It's a source of disagreement for us. You have stated repeatedly that my moral stance is that I am open to the idea that it can be justifiable. If that's what you need to tell yourself in the midst of a discussion like this, then so be it. Do you also attach the term "universal truth" to your belief that homosexuality is immoral?
You believe that the statement 'rape is wrong' is a moral truth that applies to everyone. That is as universal as it gets.
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkLet people decide for themselves if you have been participating in this discussion in good faith. I am perfectly happy for people to make what they will of my attempts to discuss morality here. But I certainly wouldn't want to be looking back on your behaviour as if it were mine.
I think I did and responded to the ones where I thought were asking me a question. That said, if I have missed a question feel free to ask it again.
Originally posted by FMFFor me 'truth' is universal. I am sitting in front of the computer. That is true. I am at work. That is true. There is no where in the universe where this reality will not be true. Truth corresponds with reality. When a statement is made and it corresponds with fact, with actuality, I believe it is true. I see no difference between 'truth' and 'universal truth'. You on the other hand do, but you can't tell me why.
I don't seek to use the word "universal" in the same way or for the same reason as you. It's a source of disagreement for us. You have stated repeatedly that my moral stance is that I am open to the idea that it can be justifiable. If that's what you need to tell yourself in the midst of a discussion like this, then so be it. Do you also attach the term "universal truth" to your belief that homosexuality is immoral?