"Woke" values and Christian values

In the public domain in countries like the U.S. and the U.K. the word "woke" has been appropriated and, in most cases, shorn of specific meaning, and it is being attached to anything in the political and social domain that the user of the word dislikes or opposes.

Merriam-Webster defines "woke" as "...aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues especially issues of racial and social justice."

If we take THIS definition rather than the vaguely-defined definition that is being wielded in "culture wars" like the ones going on in the U.S. at the moment [often in a demagogic way and on both ends of the political spectrum]...

...to what extent do "woke values" and various Christian values overlap?

@fmf said
In the public domain in countries like the U.S. and the U.K. the word "woke" has been appropriated and, in most cases, shorn of specific meaning, and it is being attached to anything in the political and social domain that the user of the word dislikes or opposes.

Merriam-Webster defines "woke" as [b]"...aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues es ...[text shortened]... e political spectrum]...

...to what extent do "woke values" and various Christian values overlap?

I wonder which woke wokie wrote that one? Anyone else been noticing that with them lately?

You’re welcome to jump over to my thread and help figure that one out if you like.

@fmf said
In the public domain in countries like the U.S. and the U.K. the word "woke" has been appropriated and, in most cases, shorn of specific meaning, and it is being attached to anything in the political and social domain that the user of the word dislikes or opposes.

Merriam-Webster defines "woke" as [b]"...aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues es ...[text shortened]... e political spectrum]...

...to what extent do "woke values" and various Christian values overlap?

I think there are loads of examples of this, some of which are linked to my proposed ideas regarding the end of the subscription model” in the other thread.

Examples:
- homosexuality
- mixed race marriages
- women leaders, in church specifically

@divegeester said
I think there are loads of examples of this, some of which are linked to my proposed ideas regarding the end of the subscription model” in the other thread.

Examples:
- homosexuality
- mixed race marriages
- women leaders, in church specifically

You also my friend.

@mike69 said
You’re welcome to jump over to my thread and help figure that one out if you like.

No thanks.

@fmf said
No thanks.

I imagine not😅!

@mike69 said
I wonder which woke wokie wrote that one? Anyone else been noticing that with them lately?

Wrote what? Who is "them"?

@mike69 said
I imagine not!

I haven't posted on the Debates Forum since I stopped about 8 years ago. I find it to be a cesspool.

@divegeester said
Examples:
- homosexuality
- mixed race marriages
- women leaders, in church specifically

The question is: to what extent do "woke values" and various Christian values overlap?

I don't see how your examples illustrate an overlap.

@fmf said
The question is: to what extent do "woke values" and various Christian values overlap?

I don't see how your examples illustrate an overlap.

No thanks, I find this one worse.

@mike69 said
No thanks, I find this one worse.

This forum? Or this question?

I think your thread on the Deabtes Forum is about U.S. politics.

This question is about religious / moral values and so belongs here on the Spirituality Forum.

If you want to talk politics on the other forum, that is your prerogative. If you want to talk about Christian values, then this is the place.

@divegeester said
- homosexuality

For most Christians ~ and certainly according to the Bible, as far as I am aware ~ homosexual acts are "sinful". But, without approving of gay sexual orientation, can't Christians - in the spirit of "love your neighbour" - be against systematic discrimination against homosexuals? That would be an overlap, would it not?

@mike69 said
You also my friend.

No thanks.

@fmf said
For most Christians ~ and certainly according to the Bible, as far as I am aware ~ homosexual acts are "sinful". But, without approving of gay sexual orientation, can't Christians - in the spirit of "love your neighbour" - be against systematic discrimination against homosexuals? That would be an overlap, would it not?

Being anti the sin, not anti the sinner should be the way forward in that scenario imo.

@divegeester said
Being anti the sin, not anti the sinner should be the way forward in that scenario imo.

I would say that the degree to which some advocates of societal acceptance of "sinful" behaviours have been so vehement and sanctimonious - and essentially impatient - has been met with exasperated pushback these last ten or so years.

Both left and right are devouring themselves and each other with stances rooted in identity politics [and exploiting feelings of grievance, on both sides of the aisle].

But can some overlap not be found in Christian values regarding tolerance, compassion, and forgiveness?