What other hope is there?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
If the OP got you to honestly evaluate your own beliefs and the hope that they bring you then I guess it achieved something.

Originally posted by @fmf
You go first with your answer to my question about repercussions you think there would be from people answering your OP in the way you want. And then I will answer your echo of that question which you directed back at me in lieu of an answer to mine.

Originally posted by @fmf
Do you now understand why your OP comes across as a naive and clumsy attempt at discourse?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Sure, for the arrogant and dishonest, possibly.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
If my evidence for the existence of God is not deemed - by you - to be be credible, what do you think are the repercussions for [1] you, and [2] me?

Originally posted by @fmf
Do you still hold to your claim that the numerous thumbs down for your OP indicates that people are pissed off by the fact that their worldviews don't offer them any kind of hope, or do you perhaps accept that numerous people just found your OP a rather naive and disingenuous attempt by you to preen in public [passed off as you "reconfirming [your] own beliefs"]?

Originally posted by @fmf
For all practical intents and purposes there are [1] none, and [2] none.

I am more interested in the impact your superstitious beliefs have on your intellectual honesty and your interpersonal skills.

FMF: Do you now understand why your OP comes across as a naive and clumsy attempt at discourse?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Sure, for the arrogant and dishonest, possibly.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
And I am quite interested in the all hope that is found in atheism and other world views that people can’t seem to talk about.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Sure there may be many other possibilities but being pissed off about having no hope could be one.

Originally posted by @fmf
So the negative reaction you have received for this OP, in your mind, stands in contrast to your humility and honesty? You really did not understand the reaction you got?

Originally posted by @fmf
And when - in order to cater to this supposed interest of yours - will you start engaging in discourse with non-believers in a genuine way rather than just trying to troll them as seems to be your schtick here?

Originally posted by @fmf
What "other possibilities" for the negative reaction do you envisage?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Some people could have thumbed it down because they think their atheism gives them more hope than Christianity but they won’t bother to reply and say so.

Also, say there are two people: A and B. Both are sincere in their beliefs, but those beliefs are not compatible. A's offers him more personal hope, but B's is better in line with reality.

In that case, A might thump his chest at B, pointing out (accurately) that his beliefs give him more hope than B's give her...but A fails to see that this has come at a price: A is more deluded than B, and thus, shouldn't be bragging.