The Health Risks of Gay Sex

Originally posted by twhitehead
Normal? I don't know how common it is. I feel compelled to point out that sticking fingers up (rather than a whole hand) is not restricted to homosexuals, and is probably quite common amongst heterosexual couples - and even, I believe, suggested in various books on the subject of sex.
Natural? I don't think one can talk about 'natural' with respect to mu ...[text shortened]... ne.
Now, eating haggis, [b]that is not normal, not natural, and decidedly insane.[/b]

You are guessing again. 😏

Originally posted by RJHinds
There is no need to assume. The proof is there. 😏

I am having a respectful and productive conversation with Robbie. I appreciate your being interested but I think it is not necessary to settle this question of whether Robbie's assertions have been proven, in order to advance the discussion. I ask for your understanding.

Originally posted by JS357
I am having a respectful and productive conversation with Robbie. I appreciate your being interested but I think it is not necessary to settle this question of whether Robbie's assertions have been proven, in order to advance the discussion. I ask for your understanding.

Okay, as long as you are learning something of importance. 😏

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I answered it already, with reference to the doctors findings, I do not provide my own opinions where possible, sorry, it helps me remain detached.

Originally posted by wolfgang59
Why wont you answer this question?
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Originally posted by wolfgang59
Robbie, you are obviously a "man of the world" could you tell me
what homosexuals do that heterosexuals do not?

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I answered it already, with reference to the doctors findings, I do not provide my own opinions where possible, sorry, it helps me remain detached.


You do not provide your own opinions? LMAO

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
you think its normal, natural and sane to stick your hand or an implement in someone else's anus, in what sense is it normal, natural or sane? Please explain.

Doctors are sometimes required to insert their hands up a person's anus to examine them medically.

So, are we clear now that the mere insertion of a part of the hand into the anus can be normal, natural and sane? Good.

So what is your criteria for judging it not to be normal, natural and sane when done for sexual pleasure?

Originally posted by Rank outsider
Doctors are sometimes required to insert their hands up a person's anus to examine them medically.

So, are we clear now that the mere insertion of a part of the hand into the anus can be normal, natural and sane? Good.

So what is your criteria for judging it not to be normal, natural and sane when done for sexual pleasure?

Whilst your about it, do you kiss your wife?

Some of your arguments revolve around whether a part of a body is primarily designed for a specific human functionality. This is clearly not the case for the mouth and kissing.

Kissing could be described as unhygenic and plenty of diseases are communicable by kissing. So the act could be described as unhealthy.

So why do you determine that kissing is acceptable and inserting a finger up a bottom is not?

Before you come back with 'LOL are you serious equating etc etc' can you just answer the question.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
accept that homosexuality carries with it certain health risks and stop pretending that it's natural, normal and healthy. I mean for goodness sake, A Guide to the Sensual and Spiritual Art of Handballing???? How can this be defended? Why would any normal functioning and sane individual want to do that? On what basis is sticking your hand or an impl ...[text shortened]... e considered as anything other than unnatural, unhealthy and abnormal? Seriously, an art form?

accept that homosexuality carries with it certain health risks

you are still struggling to separate homosexuality from anal-sex. does this mean in your mind that if a homosexual abstains from anal-sex their entire life that they are not homosexual?

Originally posted by Rank outsider
Doctors are sometimes required to insert their hands up a person's anus to examine them medically.

So, are we clear now that the mere insertion of a part of the hand into the anus can be normal, natural and sane? Good.

So what is your criteria for judging it not to be normal, natural and sane when done for sexual pleasure?

no they are not, they use a endoscope and even prior to this , it was only as a consequence of an abnormality that the procedure may have taken place, her would have been no need if everything was normal. But that argument is a slight of hand, for the motivation is entirely different, the anus is not meant to have hands or implements inserted into it normally, its therefore, not normal, its abnormal to do so is unnatural. As to the sanity of anyone wanting to do such a thing as some kind of spiritual art form as described in literature, it appears to me to be entirely akin to those who self mutilate or self harm themselves and who are committed to professional care for mental rehabilitation, for knowing the risks and the dangers, they proceed to engage in a process that is therefore irrational and abnormal and may do them some harm. So no its not normal, its abnormal and its not natural, its unnatural and the sanity or otherwise of those who engage in it is a matter of conjecture at the moment.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
[b]accept that homosexuality carries with it certain health risks

you are still struggling to separate homosexuality from anal-sex. does this mean in your mind that if a homosexual abstains from anal-sex their entire life that they are not homosexual?[/b]

No i am not struggling, there is a clear disparity.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
No i am not struggling, there is a clear disparity.

im not clear on your answer, do you consider a man who is sexually atracted to men, who never has anal-sex a homosexual?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
As to the sanity of anyone wanting to do such a thing as some kind of spiritual art form as described in literature, it appears to me to be entirely akin to those who self mutilate or self harm themselves and who are committed to professional care for mental rehabilitation, for knowing the risks and the dangers, they proceed to engage in a process th ...[text shortened]... l and the sanity or otherwise of those who engage in it is a matter of conjecture at the moment.

Its starting to sound like you consider anyone with pierced ear lobes to be insane and worthy of being committed to professional care for mental rehabilitation.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
im not clear on your answer, do you consider a man who is sexually atracted to men, who never has anal-sex a homosexual?

Men who have sex with men account for the lion's share of the increasing number of cases in America of sexually transmitted infections that are not generally spread through sexual contact. Dr Diggs.

This is now also the case in the UK as the highest ever number of recorded cases of AIDS among homosexual men proves. Now you can avoid this rather distasteful statistic, but its a fact and it wont go away with references to any other types of behavior patterns. Why you cannot accept it, I do not know.

Originally posted by twhitehead
Its starting to sound like you consider anyone with pierced ear lobes to be insane and worthy of being committed to professional care for mental rehabilitation.

Its not about me, try to remain objective.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
So no its not normal, its abnormal and its not natural, its unnatural and the sanity or otherwise of those who engage in it is a matter of conjecture at the moment.

So your "argument" on the previous page alluded to a lack of 'sanity', but now you are distancing yourself from this and calling it "a matter of conjecture", right? For who is it "a matter of conjecture"? You?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Its not about me, try to remain objective.

When you ask "Why would any normal functioning and sane individual want to do that?" you are expressing a deeply personal opinion and divulging information about what sexual things you yourself "want" and don't "want". You could hardly make it more 'about you' than you are on this topic, robbie.