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The Health Risks of Gay Sex

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Originally posted by JS357
I said, "Further, having this thread in Spirituality is not subtle."

I have no problem with this thread being on this forum; it's being here merely indicates that you had in mind more than just disapproving certain sex acts on the basis of their health effects.

All this denial of Diggs' being a homophobe does is highlight the disapproval he and you have ...[text shortened]... y, when all of those sex acts are also performed heterosexually. But you are silent on that.
There is a clear disparity or at least thats what i am trying to prove.


Originally posted by stellspalfie
just pointing out that you only seem to be able to find articles on right wing, religious extremist, propaganda websites.

seeing how you find these sites so trustworthy and non biased im sure you agree with the articles the site publishes regarding islam? do you find you have many common opinions with right wing, american, religious, fox-backed websites? do you quote them on other topics or is it just on homosexuality?
please try to stick to the subject at hand.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
please try to stick to the subject at hand.
just wondering if you support and believe all the information on the frc website?

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
There is a clear disparity or at least thats what i am trying to prove.
And what do you want people to do if you prove it to them?

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Originally posted by JS357
And what do you want people to do if you prove it to them?
accept that homosexuality carries with it certain health risks and stop pretending that it's natural, normal and healthy. I mean for goodness sake, A Guide to the Sensual and Spiritual Art of Handballing???? How can this be defended? Why would any normal functioning and sane individual want to do that? On what basis is sticking your hand or an implement in another persons anus to be considered as anything other than unnatural, unhealthy and abnormal? Seriously, an art form?

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Originally posted by stellspalfie
just wondering if you support and believe all the information on the frc website?
I have not read all the information i only found the references that were expedient for the case that i am trying to make.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
accept that homosexuality carries with it certain health risks and stop pretending that it's natural, normal and healthy. I mean for goodness sake, A Guide to the Sensual and Spiritual Art of Handballing???? How can this be defended? Why would any normal functioning and sane individual want to do that? On what basis is sticking your hand or an impl ...[text shortened]... e considered as anything other than unnatural, unhealthy and abnormal? Seriously, an art form?
You must remember these people are evil-lutionists. They don't seem to be sane individuals, even though they may be the norm for today's world. 😏

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
accept that homosexuality carries with it certain health risks and stop pretending that it's natural, normal and healthy. I mean for goodness sake, A Guide to the Sensual and Spiritual Art of Handballing???? How can this be defended? Why would any normal functioning and sane individual want to do that? On what basis is sticking your hand or an impl ...[text shortened]... e considered as anything other than unnatural, unhealthy and abnormal? Seriously, an art form?
I am glad we have moved to this subtopic and that you are willing to discuss it.

Having people accept a belief is one thing; what you want them to do because of that belief, is quite another. Also, they may do things based on those beliefs, if they accept them, that you never had in mind and might be dismayed to hear came due to your persuasiveness.

Let's assume you are right about everything you have said in this thread.

What do you want people to do on the basis of the beliefs you want them to accept? I think you should specify limits (if any) that you want hold yourself to, and that you want them to respect. For example, do you think these acts should be felonies when practiced by consenting adults? Do you think they should be felonies only between same sex people, but allowed between married couples? Or should they just be institutionalized and treated as insane? Or should we not legislate against them, but just allow non-profits to promote and provide treatment to self-identifying individuals? Or what?

This might be less obvious to you if you have a non-participative approach to governance, but people here in the US and other rule-of-law nations, tend to want their laws implement, or at least be consistent with, their beliefs.

You ask "How can this be defended?"

What is the arena in which this would need defense? A court? This forum? In creation of laws? In interpretation of the constitution of a state?

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Why would any normal functioning and sane individual want to do that?
You're now attributing their difference from you to a question of sanity and insanity?

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Originally posted by FMF
You're now attributing their difference from you to a question of sanity and insanity?
you think its normal, natural and sane to stick your hand or an implement in someone else's anus, in what sense is it normal, natural or sane? Please explain.

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Originally posted by JS357
I am glad we have moved to this subtopic and that you are willing to discuss it.

Having people accept a belief is one thing; what you want them to do because of that belief, is quite another. Also, they may do things based on those beliefs, if they accept them, that you never had in mind and might be dismayed to hear came due to your persuasiveness.

Le ...[text shortened]... ? A court? This forum? In creation of laws? In interpretation of the constitution of a state?
Ill try to answer this later, its late.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
you think its normal, natural and sane to stick your hand or an implement in someone else's anus, in what sense is it normal, natural or sane? Please explain.
So your latest "argument" is about 'sanity'?

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
you think its normal, natural and sane to stick your hand or an implement in someone else's anus....
I have no judgmental view on it at all. I see no moral or spiritual issue here. Most of the information you're giving off with these kinds of comments is about yourself and what you yourself like or don't like sexually, as was the case with your revelations about your personal views on oral sex a few weeks ago..

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
you think its normal, natural and sane to stick your hand or an implement in someone else's anus, in what sense is it normal, natural or sane? Please explain.
Normal? I don't know how common it is. I feel compelled to point out that sticking fingers up (rather than a whole hand) is not restricted to homosexuals, and is probably quite common amongst heterosexual couples - and even, I believe, suggested in various books on the subject of sex.
Natural? I don't think one can talk about 'natural' with respect to much of human behaviour. Do you mean something different from 'normal', or are you associating human behaviour with that of other animals? Is using a computer 'natural? My cat cleans her bottom with her tongue. If a human does that, is it 'natural'?
Sane? Well I certainly wouldn't call someone insane simply because they practised fisting. Further, the fact that there are health risks, is not, in any way, an argument for calling the practice insane.
Now, eating haggis, that is not normal, not natural, and decidedly insane.

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Originally posted by JS357
I am glad we have moved to this subtopic and that you are willing to discuss it.

Having people accept a belief is one thing; what you want them to do because of that belief, is quite another. Also, they may do things based on those beliefs, if they accept them, that you never had in mind and might be dismayed to hear came due to your persuasiveness.

Le ...[text shortened]... ? A court? This forum? In creation of laws? In interpretation of the constitution of a state?
There is no need to assume. The proof is there. 😏

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