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Science Negates All of Abrahamic Religions

Science Negates All of Abrahamic Religions

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@fmf said
It's not "all of a sudden" at all. It's been going on for years. The atheists here who have resorted to talk of "delusion" and "fairytales" in their interactions with people talking about their religious faith have thankfully been a relatively small minority
I have frequently been called deluded (on account of my atheism) by Christians here, including Kelly, Joseph and Sonship.


@ghost-of-a-duke said
Atheism is a lack of belief in God or gods. That's it. It is not a club, a community. There is no solidarity between us based on our disbelief in deities.
I have not suggested there is "a club" or "a community" or that there is "solidarity". These are words you are introducing into the conversation. Not me. But there are some commonalities: we share a lack of belief in a deity and we are active here mostly because we seek to engage theists in good faith. I don't see a role for mockery.


@FMF

Are you regretting doubling down on the whole 'fairy tale' thing?


@fmf said
I have not suggested there is "a club" or "a community" or that there is "solidarity".
Then don't refer to me as a fellow atheist as though we shared some common code of conduct.

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
I have frequently been called deluded (on account of my atheism) by Christians here, including Kelly, Joseph and Sonship.
It doesn't concern me. josephw has described my lack of belief as a mental illness on several occasions. I don't really care. He is who he is. But it would bother me if atheists here started arguing that theism as a kind of mental illness.


@ghost-of-a-duke said
Then don't refer to me as a fellow atheist as though we shared some common code of conduct.
I am criticizing your sloppy banter and conduct which I see as an attempt to belittle people's faith when I know full well that you are able to express your ideas - many of which we have in common - with much more erudition.


@fmf said
It doesn't concern me. josephw has described my lack of belief a mental illness on several occasions. I don't really care. He us who is. But it would bother me if atheists here started theism as a kind of mental illness.
Religion is not a mental illness, but a fulfillment of the human need for answers, hope and comfort.

These answers however are false, and hinder the search for genuine answers.


@ghost-of-a-duke said
Religion is not a mental illness, but a fulfillment of the human need for answers, hope and comfort.

These answers however are false, and hinder the search for genuine answers.
This kind of rhetoric is far more becoming of you.


@ghost-of-a-duke said
Are you regretting doubling down on the whole 'fairy tale' thing?
Not at all. Atheists' resort to this particular riff has been making me cringe for years.


@fmf said
I am criticizing your sloppy banter and conduct which I see as an attempt to belittle people's faith when I know full well that you are able to express your ideas - many of which we have in common - with much more erudition.
Is it only the term 'fairy tale' you object to? Is myth ok?

Or should I just pretend literal accounts of the Garden of Eden have some level of credence?


@fmf said
This kind of rhetoric is far more becoming of you.
How about:

These answers however are built on fairytales and hinder the search for genuine answers.


@ghost-of-a-duke said
Is it only the term 'fairy tale' you object to? Is myth ok?
"Ancient Hebrew mythology" and "ancient Hebrew folklore" seem OK to me.


@ghost-of-a-duke said
Or should I just pretend literal accounts of the Garden of Eden have some level of credence?
I don't see why you are worrying so much about whether a believer views this as allegory or as literally true.


@fmf said
"Ancient Hebrew mythology" and "ancient Hebrew folklore" seem OK to me.
Should all terminology be checked with you in advance, to prevent people feeling belittled?


@ghost-of-a-duke said
How about:

These answers however are built on fairytales and hinder the search for genuine answers.
The words "fairytales" or "fairies" come across as words intended to mock the believer.

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