@kellyjay saidYour claiming that everything or most of everything in the OT is historically factual?
Not at all, we can find points to draw on in many writings. The distinction with the Lord of the Rings which I love and have read more than a few times, I don't count it as historical. While the OT you can draw on as we can the Illiad, but having something to draw on that actually occurred is different than Gandalf talking to Frodo.
That’s a massive claim for a book who’s plot line infers that our species is only about six thousand years old, in what way is lord of the rings less fantastical than the OT or the Iliad?
@avalanchethecat said<<That phrase doesn't really mean anything. >>
That phrase doesn't really mean anything. Do you mean the 'name' of god made flesh?
Edit: Also, the books you're reading about Jesus were written by men. Acting as intermediaries.
It does to somebody who believes in God. Obviously not to an atheist.
<<Edit: Also, the books you're reading about Jesus were written by men. Acting as intermediaries.>>
Written by men under the inspiration, guidance and control of God’s Holy Spirit. I thought you looked into the Holy Bible “extensively.”
29 Dec 21
@pb1022 saidIf you'd like to discuss things reasonably, I'm happy to do so. Before we do that, though, you're going to need to either demonstrate that your accusations of me lying are based in something more than your imagination, or you're going to need to apologise and retract those accusations.
<<That phrase doesn't really mean anything. >>
It does to somebody who believes in God. Obviously not to an atheist.
<<Edit: Also, the books you're reading about Jesus were written by men. Acting as intermediaries.>>
Written by men under the inspiration, guidance and control of God’s Holy Spirit. I thought you looked into the Holy Bible “extensively.”
29 Dec 21
@avalanchethecat saidHe called Ghost of Duke a "pathological liar" 400-500 times on this forum in 2018, often copy-pasting the same text 4 or 5 times in a row or across multiple threads simultaneously.
If you'd like to discuss things reasonably, I'm happy to do so. Before we do that, though, you're going to need to either demonstrate that your accusations of me lying are based in something more than your imagination, or you're going to need to apologise and retract those accusations.
29 Dec 21
@fmf saidYou’re lying again, but hardly a surprise.
He called Ghost of Duke a "pathological liar" 400-500 times on this forum in 2018, often copy-pasting the same text 4 or 5 times in a row or across multiple threads simultaneously.
You wouldn’t be you without that unfortunate and significant character flaw
29 Dec 21
@avalanchethecat saidI’ve already done that, but just because I write a post in response to something you’ve written doesn’t mean I’m interested in a discussion with you.
If you'd like to discuss things reasonably, I'm happy to do so. Before we do that, though, you're going to need to either demonstrate that your accusations of me lying are based in something more than your imagination, or you're going to need to apologise and retract those accusations.
In most cases, I’m simply correcting the record.
29 Dec 21
@pb1022 saidYou have neither justified your accusation nor apologised.
I’ve already done that, but just because I write a post in response to something you’ve written doesn’t mean I’m interested in a discussion with you.
In most cases, I’m simply correcting the record.
You're not correcting anything, you're just wading in with a contrary opinion to try to stir things up, troll-fashion.
@avalanchethecat saidLook at it this way, God is God everywhere in His completeness at no time or anywhere is He any less or more than He is, the great I AM. In this world we lost out due to sin, He setup everything for the fullness of time to enter into humanity as one us so we could relate to Him in terms we could grasp, then redeeming us He sends His Spirit into us. It’s very personal and one on one, as the saying goes He has no grandchildren. The one intermediate is Jesus, God Himself, why He chooses to use people is a mystery to me too.
That phrase doesn't really mean anything. Do you mean the 'name' of god made flesh?
Edit: Also, the books you're reading about Jesus were written by men. Acting as intermediaries.
@kellyjay saidWell, yes, I daresay that's what the bible tells you.
Look at it this way, God is God everywhere in His completeness at no time or anywhere is He any less or more than He is, the great I AM. In this world we lost out due to sin, He setup everything for the fullness of time to enter into humanity as one us so we could relate to Him in terms we could grasp, then redeeming us He sends His Spirit into us. It’s very personal and one ...[text shortened]... en. The one intermediate is Jesus, God Himself, why He chooses to use people is a mystery to me too.
@kevcvs57 saidYes
Your claiming that everything or most of everything in the OT is historically factual?
That’s a massive claim for a book who’s plot line infers that our species is only about six thousand years old, in what way is lord of the rings less fantastical than the OT or the Iliad?