1. Standard memberavalanchethecat
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    @pb1022 said
    You’d be surprised how many Christians are in the world. Far more Christians than atheists.

    And you’d be surprised how many people, including many scientists, recognize the theory of evolution as the biggest scientific fraud of the 20th- and 21st centuries.

    Folks in the 1800s can be forgiven for their ignorance in believing Darwin’s fairy tale.

    But with revelations of how complex the cell and DNA are, that ignorance is no longer understandable.
    I believe that you believe this.
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    06 Dec '21 17:43
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    Actually everything is evidence for or against there isn’t a set of facts that only one side gets to use and the other doesn’t.
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    @kellyjay said
    @avalanchethecat
    Actually everything is evidence for or against there isn’t a set of facts that only one side gets to use and the other doesn’t.
    Oh sure. Some evidence is more equal than other evidence though.
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    @avalanchethecat said
    Oh sure. Some evidence is more equal than other evidence though.
    No, the evidence is equal across the board, some interpretations are stronger than others.
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    @kellyjay said
    No, the evidence is equal across the board, some interpretations are stronger than others.
    Er, no. For example, testimony of the defendant's drunken partner is not of equal value to video of the crime being committed.
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    @avalanchethecat said
    Er, no. For example, testimony of the defendant's drunken partner is not of equal value to video of the crime being committed.
    And you’ve got neither testimony nor video evidence of macroevolution.

    Christians have testimony of eyewitnesses of the Resurrected Christ.
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    @kellyjay said
    No, the evidence is equal across the board, some interpretations are stronger than others.
    There is a principle known as WoE or Weight of Evidence. It is a tool used in various fields to enable one to determine the relative value of different sorts of evidence.
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    @avalanchethecat said
    There is a principle known as WoE or Weight of Evidence. It is a tool used in various fields to enable one to determine the relative value of different sorts of evidence.
    And what evidence do you have of macroevolution?

    Evolutionist: “The evidence is overwhelming. It’s everywhere!”

    Me: “Can you cite any?”

    Evolutionist: “Let’s talk about creationism.”
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    @pb1022 said
    And what evidence do you have of macroevolution?

    Evolutionist: “The evidence is overwhelming. It’s everywhere!”

    Me: “Can you cite any?”

    Evolutionist: “Let’s talk about creationism.”
    All of the fossils. All of them.
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    @avalanchethecat said
    Er, no. For example, testimony of the defendant's drunken partner is not of equal value to video of the crime being committed.
    That would be equally bad 😀
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    @avalanchethecat said
    All of the fossils. All of them.
    How many transitional fossils are there?

    Darwin said the number would have to be “truly enormous” if his theory were true. Is it?
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    @pb1022 said
    How many transitional fossils are there?

    Darwin said the number would have to be “truly enormous” if his theory were true. Is it?
    *yawn*
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    @avalanchethecat said
    *yawn*
    Cute.

    I hope if you learned anything from our conversation, it’s how important it is for you to think for yourself and not be closed-minded and dogmatic. And don’t rely on other people to do your thinking for you.

    Take care and be well.
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    @avalanchethecat said
    There is a principle known as WoE or Weight of Evidence. It is a tool used in various fields to enable one to determine the relative value of different sorts of evidence.
    I'm not arguing some weigh differently than others, only that what is weak is weak, strong is strong, it is what it is. A fossil doesn't change because a Thesistic Creationist is looking at it then turns into something else when an Atheistic evolutionist is looking at it. It is what it is, our interpretations may vary in strength, but that will not change the evidence from being what it is.

    Here is something about evidence you may like/dislike (I tried to cover my bases) 🙂
    YouTube
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    @pb1022 said
    Cute.

    I hope if you learned anything from our conversation, it’s how important it is for you to think for yourself and not be closed-minded and dogmatic. And don’t rely on other people to do your thinking for you.

    Take care and be well.
    No, my main take-away from our 'conversation' is that religion can completely ruin a person's education.
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