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@fmf said
I am simply engaging the dogma and beliefs espoused by those religionists here who subscribe to the Christian torturer god ideology. You should read their posts. I do.

I read their posts and yours. You inject into the narrative a conceptualization not consistent with the narrative of the Bible, nor is it consistent with what others are saying.

To date you have not proven that anyone has said anything that remotely resembles a belief in a "torturer god ideology".

Give it up.

@secondson said
To date you have not proven that anyone has said anything that remotely resembles a belief in a "torturer god ideology".

Certain Christians propagate the ideology here all the time and have been doing so for as long as I have been a member of the community.

@fmf said
Which verses indicate that the sanction of capital punishment was rescinded?

Where did I say the sanction of capital punishment was rescinded?

@secondson said
Where did I say the sanction of capital punishment was rescinded?

For crimes other than murder.

@fmf said
Are "the scriptures" the only thing that makes you assert that I am going to be tormented in burning flames for eternity after I die?

Where did Kelly assert that you would be tormented in burning flames for eternity?

In fact, where does the Bible say "tormented in burning flames for eternity?"

@secondson said
Where did Kelly assert that you would be tormented in burning flames for eternity?

On this forum.

@secondson said
In fact, where does the Bible say "tormented in burning flames for eternity?"

Ask sonship, KellyJay, Eladar, RJHinds, Grampy Bobby, Philokalia and so on and so on numerous Christian posters stretching back years. Non-believers being "tormented in burning flames for eternity" has been the dogma they have propagated.

@fmf said
For crimes other than murder.

You're changing the subject.

The sanction of capital punishment was pre-law, as are some other things.

"The Law" was given to a specific people of whom God, as of the birth of the church, has temporarily set aside.

During the period from the inception of Israel until the birth of Christ the law required death for adultery and murder for which there was no provisions in the law for forgiveness.

And this is where it gets complicated....

@secondson said
You're changing the subject.

No, I am not changing the subject at all. You wrote this:

Only God can sanction capital punishment, and He has. Genesis 9:6 - "Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man." First degree intentional homicide. That sanction has never been rescinded.

You said that sanction has never been rescinded. Which verses indicate that the sanction of capital punishment was rescinded for crimes other than "First degree intentional homicide"?

@fmf said
Ask sonship, KellyJay, Eladar, RJHinds, Grampy Bobby, Philokalia and so on and so on numerous Christian posters stretching back years. Non-believers being "tormented in burning flames for eternity" has been the dogma they have propagated.

No it isn't.

Other than you and divegeester I have never heard anyone say "tormented in burning flames for eternity" in this forum.

If you want to discuss what the Bible says relative to the fate of the "non-believers", as you put it, then, with me at least, you'll have to use language consistent with the narrative of the Bible.

I don't recognize the term "torturer god ideology". It's a mischaracterization of the language of the Bible, and more importantly the nature and character of the God of the Bible.

@secondson said
Other than you and divegeester I have never heard anyone say "tormented in burning flames for eternity" in this forum.

The reason I have been putting them quotation marks is because Philokalia used those exact words a few weeks ago when he was describing the punishment he believes is meted out to those who are not "saved".

@fmf said
Which verses indicate that the sanction of capital punishment was rescinded for crimes other than "First degree intentional homicide"?

Thanks for rephrasing the question.

Let's begin with what I said in a post above. Can you find it?

@secondson said
I don't recognize the term "torturer god ideology". It's a mischaracterization of the language of the Bible, and more importantly the nature and character of the God of the Bible.

"Torturer god" applies perfectly to the nature and character of the God described and explained by those here who believe in the "divine" punishment of being "tormented in burning flames for eternity".

@secondson said
Thanks for rephrasing the question.

Let's begin with what I said in a post above. Can you find it?

I've asked the same question twice, now. You don't have to answer it if you don't want to.

@fmf said
The reason I have been putting them quotation marks is because Philokalia used those exact words a few weeks ago when he was describing the punishment he believes is meted out to those who are not "saved".

Well, I don't see just exactly every post every poster makes in every thread.

Show me the post and where I can find it.

But as a qualifier, I'm not responsible for things said by those that are misrepresenting what the Bible actually says.