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So we agree that it can be tampered with. It has been doctored to remove Jehovahs own name from his own book (I can’t think of anything worse), so I don’t think that taking a book or two out is impossible?
@medullah saidExactly....
@galveston75
So we agree that it can be tampered with. It has been doctored to remove Jehovahs own name from his own book (I can’t think of anything worse), so I don’t think that taking a book or two out is impossible?
The Encyclopedia of the Bible says: “Jehovah, or rather Jahweh, is the actual, strictly personal ‘proper name’ of God of Israel.” The Protestant New Bible Dictionary states: “Strictly speaking, Yahweh is the only ‘name’ of God. In Genesis wherever the word shem ‘name’ is associated with the divine being that name is Yahweh. When Abraham or Isaac built an altar ‘he called on the name of Yahweh.’”
The French Dictionnaire de la Bible (Dictionary of the Bible), edited by the Catholic priest F. Vigouroux, says: “Jehovah, the personal name of God in the Old Testament. No divine name is so frequently used in the Hebrew Bible. It is repeated about "6000" times, either alone or with another divine name.”
Jehovah, Jahweh, Yahweh​—these are various ways in which the divine name is rendered from the Hebrew Tetragrammaton into English. This name was used in normal conversation in ancient times, to distinguish the true God from false gods. Except at Psalm 83:18 and a few other verses, the King James translation of the Bible generally uses the word “LORD” instead of God’s name. However, a number of Bible translations correctly retain God’s true name wherever it appeared in the language in which the Bible originally was written, spelling it either “Jehovah” or “Yahweh.”
( Did you happen to notice that number of 6000? That's just in the Hebrew scriptures where his name has been removed in most bibles. No wonder the trinity doctrine is so easily pushed into peoples minds for so many to believe.)
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On the subject of the Tetragrammaton, did you know that the Greeks were inclined to refer to it as “pi pi” as in the mathematical term?
@galveston75 saidThis isn’t a trick question, and I certainly don’t know the answer, but as the JWs went back to Jehovah as opposed to “God” or “Lord” in their translations, is there a reason why they didn’t go the whole hog and refer to Jesus as “Yeshua” which I think is a nicer sounding rendition ?
Oh for sure it can be. I wouldn't want to be the ones that have done that. But if one "test scripture with scripture" and does a little research and deeply prays to Jehovah, he will make sure you get the correct understandings from him in the bible.
The constant bashing the Witnesses get is that we've changed the bible to suit our needs or beliefs
@medullah saidWill get back to you later. Wife's getting off work. Gotta pay attention to her now. Lol
This isn’t a trick question, and I certainly don’t know the answer, but as the JWs went back to Jehovah as opposed to “God” or “Lord” in their translations, is there a reason why they didn’t go the whole hog and refer to Jesus as “Yeshua” which I think is a nicer sounding rendition ?
@medullah saidThanks. This subject usually gets a good response.
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I like you choice of thread by the way, it’s a great subject.
@medullah saidNo I didn't know that.....Thanks.
@galveston75
On the subject of the Tetragrammaton, did you know that the Greeks were inclined to refer to it as “pi pi” as in the mathematical term?
@medullah saidYes I like the way Yeshua sounds too. But the name Jesus is one that has been established as God's sons name on the planet.
This isn’t a trick question, and I certainly don’t know the answer, but as the JWs went back to Jehovah as opposed to “God” or “Lord” in their translations, is there a reason why they didn’t go the whole hog and refer to Jesus as “Yeshua” which I think is a nicer sounding rendition ?
But the name Jehovah again has been removed completely in a few Bible's. But the trick is to look at the word "LORD". All capital would be referring to Jehovah.
So if other bibles have at least kept that correct then at least you know it is Jehovah it's speaking of. Jesus would be "Lord".
Knowing this really changes a lot on the old trinity teaching.....
@galveston75 saidWhy would the English version of the name be "established" by God "on the planet"? There are many languages around the aforementioned planet. Here in Indonesia, "Jesus" is known as Yesus [or Isa by Muslims]. In Hebrew, it is Yeshua, for example. God in Indonesian is both "Tuhan" and "Allah" for both Christians and Muslims.
Yes I like the way Yeshua sounds too. But the name Jesus is one that has been established as God's sons name on the planet.
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I want to speak more about Babylon the subject of the OP yet with the positive angle which is needed.
Revelation 19 contains the only Hallelujahs in the New Testament. This expression of high praise is reserved for God's people rejoicing in heaven that Babylon is being judged.
"After these things I heard as it were a loud voice of a great multitude in heaven, saying, Hallelujah! The salvation and the glory and the power or of our God." (19:1)
These will be Christians who have been raptured from earth to heaven for a period of time. They rejoice that one of the main impediments to their grow is finally being done away with.
"For true and righteous are His judgments; for He has judged the great harlot who corrupted the earth with her fornication, and He avenged the blood of His slaves at her hand." (v.2)
Hallelujah is reserved in the New Testament until this event. Some of them were damaged and captured by Babylon. Now they have been raptured from the earth to heaven and raise Hallelujahs that their and God's enemy is undergoing vengeance and judgment.
"And a second time they said, "Hallelujah! And her smoke goes up forever and ever. And the twenty-four elders and the four living creatures fell down and worshipped God, who sits upon the throne, saying, Amen, Hallelujah." (v.4)
@galveston75 saidYou have GOT to be kidding with this post.
Oh for sure it can be. I wouldn't want to be the ones that have done that. But if one "test scripture with scripture" and does a little research and deeply prays to Jehovah, he will make sure you get the correct understandings from him in the bible.
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