Originally posted by iamatigerAfter Nb5+ Fritz is starting to think black should resign, it is giving itself a 3 point advantage, I dont agree with it to that extent, but I much prefer whites postion. Looking down the lines there is a very surprising move for fritz in one of the variations, showing how much chess engines have come on.
Move 13, if I was white I'd castle queenside now - can anyone predict what black will do then?
Originally posted by GrayeyesofsorrowI am not Tal. I seldom ever win in the middle game. I do know that a King and Bishop cannot win. I think Black does not want to exchange Queens if this game starts to go to the ending by way of a series of exchanges.
You dont want to go into an endgame here for white :-) Blacks king is screwed the more white pieces on the board the more screwed it is.
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Grey:
Now that you've been playing Feivel (by driving the computer). And in a way you are playing him, since you are choosing which move to make based on selections suggested by Fritz and not just choosing the "Top" move everytime. Do you feel in some way connected to your side of the board (White)? As in, do you feel like if you win, you had something to do with it?
Just looking for a clue into the mind of the cheaters on this site, and why they might do something that most of us think (they don't get anything out of)....
Tim
Originally posted by tmetzlerI have been of the impression that White is 100% Fritz and that no move was made by a player. I saw a good article about the "cheater's mind" on to internet one time. If I can find it I will tell you where I found it.
Grey:
Now that you've been playing Feivel (by driving the computer). And in a way you are playing him, since you are choosing which move to make based on selections suggested by Fritz and not just choosing the "Top" move everytime. Do you feel in some way connected to your side of the board (White)? As in, do you feel like if you win, you had somet ...[text shortened]... d why they might do something that most of us think (they don't get anything out of)....
Tim
Originally posted by Grayeyesofsorrow12.0-0-0 would be my choice too. But black is in trouble in any case. Or Feivel knows something we don't?🙂
After Nb5+ Fritz is starting to think black should resign, it is giving itself a 3 point advantage, I dont agree with it to that extent, but I much prefer whites postion. Looking down the lines there is a very surprising move for fritz in one of the variations, showing how much chess engines have come on.
I have edited the opening book and dismissed one of fritz's lines for the second best (which was better) but its all fritz's game. The line I dismissed Fritz would have done so anyway if given enough time to think, I was busy and couldnt be ars*d waiting for fritz to relise it. Apart from that every move is the top fritz move. I think people who cheat dont know which are good and bad lines anyway so they never drop outside the fritz top 3. They really dont have to know which lines are good and bad anyway, since all fritz lines are 95% of the time "good" Fritz 8 gives itself a rating of 3100+ while I think that is to high its probably not more than 200 points to high. At the speed its running it passes my rating quite quickly, having said that a lot of time I disagree with fritz, but thats only because I think it plays rather boring chess most of the time :-)
The other reason why fritz is probably going to win this is Fevils choice of variation, it suits fritz's style of play.
Originally posted by TovMauzerJa. I have seen that Black has claimed he is winning. I heard the thunder, but I am yet to see the bolt. Win lose or draw I still claim the programs are not yet that good. David Bronstein makes programs look poor to foolish.
12.0-0-0 would be my choice too. But black is in trouble in any case. Or Feivel knows something we don't?🙂
Originally posted by GrayeyesofsorrowKasparov is not the best program player. Kasparov may have played Fritz head on to a degree. Bronstein has played something like 1. e4 c5 2. b4 .... . Bronstein played Botvinnik for the title in 1951(?). It seems like he would have won, but the KGB told him to lose. Playing in the 90s he is not a young man.
Yet Kasparov makes them look equal to himself ? :-)
Originally posted by tmetzlerI did key word search "email chess cheat" on yahoo. 5. Cheating on Internet Chess Servers. http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Realm/8655/ENGLISH/Main_ENG.htm . Maybe this will yell you something.
Grey:
Now that you've been playing Feivel (by driving the computer). And in a way you are playing him, since you are choosing which move to make based on selections suggested by Fritz and not just choosing the "Top" move everytime. Do you feel in some way connected to your side of the board (White)? As in, do you feel like if you win, you had somet ...[text shortened]... d why they might do something that most of us think (they don't get anything out of)....
Tim