@Metal-Brain
Too bad, now Biden is POTUS elect and there is no mealy mouth BS from you or any of the OTHER ultrarightwingnuts can do about it.
Now is the time to stop this bickering and get back to being Americans.
@great-king-rat saidIt was failed in 2016. It's time to come back.
Democrats, 2016: "This election is rigged!!"
Republicans, 2016: "Everything's fine. Sore losers!!"
Republicans, 2020: "This election is rigged!!"
Democrats, 2020: "Everything's fine. Sore losers!!"
What an failed country America has become.
@kevcvs57 saidyou lied in every other sentence.
Well I’m sorry but there’s a big difference between stuffing Mail boxes during an election count and spreading disinformation leading up to an election.
Trump is trying to delegitimise democracy because he’s losing I don’t remember the victim of the Russian hack refusing to acknowledge the outcome the subsequent election.
Pretending that the democrats and Trump are the same is a lie pure and simple.
Trump never spread disinformation
Russia never spread disinformation (it was true info)
Hilary - with the aid of Russian GRU agent, spread disinformation
Kev, you make a great disinformation disseminator.
@earl-of-trumps saidSo you had to top him.
you lied in every other sentence.
Trump never spread disinformation
Russia never spread disinformation (it was true info)
Hilary - with the aid of Russian GRU agent, spread disinformation
Kev, you make a great disinformation disseminator.
Every one of those three statements is false.
@spruce112358
The Russians LOST that bid because people recognize bullshyte when they see it and hear it. Americans aren't THAT stupid. They saw all the scams of Trump, Barr, Putin, Kim Jon Un, and the rest of the rat pack sycophants around Trump.
I can't wait for the historians to get through with Trump and Barr particularly.
I hope they BOTH end up in prison.
Let's see them stop the release of Trump's tax returns NOW.
But what will Trump do in the next 70 odd days till he is summarily FIRED?
@shavixmir saidHow did Antrim county get a fake vote count? How do we know it was not intentional election interference? What exactly was the human error?
No. No it’s not.
Stop spreading tinfoil hat, incel, propaganda.
Why did you spread Russiagate tinfoil hat, incel, propaganda? You have a clear double standard with conspiracy theories. You embrace them and ridicule them at the same time depending on partisan bias.
Now that Biden will have his legitimacy questioned for 4 years all the sudden conspiracy theories are ridiculous after you embraced them for 4 years. See how it works? What goes around comes around.
@sonhouse saidHow did Antrim county get a fake vote count?
@Metal-Brain
Too bad, now Biden is POTUS elect and there is no mealy mouth BS from you or any of the OTHER ultrarightwingnuts can do about it.
Now is the time to stop this bickering and get back to being Americans.
@metal-brain said"J. Alex Halderman, the U-M professor and voting systems expert, said he has looked into the incident and determined that the problem arose because Antrim officials made a mistake before the election when they loaded a new version of the "election definition" — the data that is similar to a spreadsheet describing the races and candidates on the ballot.
How did Antrim county get a fake vote count?
According to the state, the new "election definition" was loaded in October after county officials learned of two local races in which ballot information had to be updated.
County officials correctly loaded the new version onto the scanners for the affected precincts, but left the old version on scanners for precincts where the ballot was not affected by the late change, Halderman said.
So although the scanners in the tabulators counted all the votes in each precinct correctly, the different versions of the ballot resulted in problems and erroneous vote totals when the precinct results were combined in the election management system, a separate software package used to manage and consolidate results before they are reported to the state, he said.
"Since the scanners ... used slightly different election definitions, some of the positions didn't line up properly," Halderman said. "As a result, when the results were read by the election management system, some of them were initially assigned to the wrong candidates."
https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/06/antrim-county-vote-glitch-software-update/6194745002/
A minor error quickly caught during a routine canvass.
The County Clerk who made the error is a Republican. https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/04/michigan-antrim-county-election-results-trump-biden-blue/6162541002/
@no1marauder saidThat is a really complicated way of saying nothing. New? Old? Why? Why change anything? Why was it necessary at all? Why was the new better than the old? Do they count differently? If so, why?
"J. Alex Halderman, the U-M professor and voting systems expert, said he has looked into the incident and determined that the problem arose because Antrim officials made a mistake before the election when they loaded a new version of the "election definition" — the data that is similar to a spreadsheet describing the races and candidates on the ballot.
According to the ...[text shortened]... s/politics/elections/2020/11/04/michigan-antrim-county-election-results-trump-biden-blue/6162541002/
How do we know it was not intentional? How do we know this did not happen elsewhere and was never caught?
@metal-brain saidYour question was answered.
That is a really complicated way of saying nothing. New? Old? Why? Why change anything? Why was it necessary at all? Why was the new better than the old? Do they count differently? If so, why?
How do we know it was not intentional? How do we know this did not happen elsewhere and was never caught?
I'm not going to waste further time on your wild, unfounded speculations.
@no1marauder saidSo it was just a coincidence that dems got votes that repubs should have? Why should the right wingers have that leap of faith?
Your question was answered.
I'm not going to waste further time on your wild, unfounded speculations.
Even when I proved Russiagate was a hoax you and the rest of the left refused to accept it. The right will be no different. They will believe Biden is an illegitimate POTUS for the same reason you believed DJT was, because that is what they want to believe.
Do you think Trump did this on purpose to get even? Can you imagine him laughing right now?
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@metal-brain saidNothing good ever came out of County Antrim.
Officials are investigating wonky election results in Antrim County in northern Michigan that could add a few thousand votes to the tallies for President Donald Trump and Republican Senate candidate John James.
https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/04/michigan-antrim-county-election-results-trump-biden-blue/6162541002/
Proper procedures are not ...[text shortened]... Nobody seems to want to report exactly what happened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdiD77Jbm2Q
@metal-brain saidSorry, you're not going to convince anyone that a programming error by one Republican county clerk that was quickly spotted and rectified is reason enough to discount the validity of a national election.
So it was just a coincidence that dems got votes that repubs should have? Why should the right wingers have that leap of faith?
Even when I proved Russiagate was a hoax you and the rest of the left refused to accept it. The right will be no different. They will believe Biden is an illegitimate POTUS for the same reason you believed DJT was, because that is what they wa ...[text shortened]... ieve.
Do you think Trump did this on purpose to get even? Can you imagine him laughing right now?
@Metal-Brain
And when are YOU going to be an American again, if you ever were?
You need to grow up and be a responsible citizen if you ever were even THAT.
The time for thinking red V blue is a battle where we are at war.
It's time to put aside all that bullshtye and start working on the many problems here because of Trump, like the soon to be a full quarter million dead from C19.
Did you ever hear Trump EVER say a single word of condolences to the loved ones of those hundreds of thousands dead from C19?
No, and you never will because Trump doesn't care a WHIT about human lives, that is beyond his very limited skill set.
Did you ever hear Trump say a single word about the hundreds of children still held in cages with mylar blankets.
A POTUS is supposed to the PROTECTOR of Americans not the condemner like Trump has been, is and would be if he had the chance to misgovern for another 4 years.
Trump cares NOTHING about anything but his own bottom line and there is not an ounce of empathy in his whole fat body,
The actions of POTUS is more than making sure your 401 is growing.
There are serious climate issues and you should realize that, just looking at the fires in the west of the US and in Australia and the fact the hot days of summer are hotter now than ever before in our history.
Trump denies there is even a problem with climate change BECAUSE HE IS WEAK and just doesn't want to deal with real issues, instead, just ignore them just like he did with C19.
You know full well Trump knew C19 was deadly IN JANUARY and chose to cover that up, downplaying it just last week in his last so-called rally.
You also know full well historians are going to put together the truth of the Trump presidency and the sociopathic and narcissistic mind of Trump who has zero empathy because his brain is warped beyond repair, thanks to his dad, who pumped near half a BILLION into Trump's failed businesses.
You bet on a total loser. What did Trump do today? Went to play golf.
And he said in his campaign run up in 2015 how Obama couldn't get anything done because he played so much golf but now Trump has played golf WAY more than Obama, and that includes this very day where he should be making a congratulatory speech welcoming Biden to the WH JUST LIKE OBAMA DID FOR TRUMP.
But of course you know full well THAT will never happen, Trump will be trying to ruin our democracy till Jan 20 when he will be marched out in handcuffs hopefully.
If he doesn't start a war of distraction in the meantime, which he is FULLY capable of doing.
I trust him as far as I can throw him and I am getting weaker day by day.
It is a new USA now, a chance to heal, to correct all the failures of Trump like pulling out of the Paris accords, like dissing our real allies, sucking up to Putin, saying he is in love with Kim Jon Un.
All of that corruption is over now, the country can start the slow healing process and hopefully even right wingers like you can be persuaded to be an actual American and not one who blasts anything a democrat wants to do.
@no1marauder saidAll I did was establish reasonable doubt. If I didn't live in northern lower MI you would never have heard of this. Just because one was spotted and corrected does not mean it would in all counties. Antrim county is not as populated as other counties down state.
Sorry, you're not going to convince anyone that a programming error by one Republican county clerk that was quickly spotted and rectified is reason enough to discount the validity of a national election.
Even if it was an honest error why did the error result in the error favoring democrats? If it favored republicans and Trump was winning I doubt you would be so forgiving and willing to give the benefit of the doubt. Besides, The 2019 Bolivian Precedent Justifies Trump's Accusations Of Fraud. This shows a clear double standard.
http://oneworld.press/?module=articles&action=view&id=1774