College Female Fencer Refuses to compete against male trans "woman"

@no1marauder said
You assume wrong.

OK. We find that the fencer has had no such medicines or doctors or surgery or anything and just literally said I feel like a girl. (and I feel like winning a fencing match somewhere.) .
Should this MAN be allowed to compete against this girl?

@AverageJoe1 said
This is where the weakest part of liberal discussions evidences itself. The question on the table….should a man be allowed to compete against a woman. A volleyball person who can smash a volleyball right into the face of a sweet little girl. That is the issue
You are trying, and losing, to make this an issue of sex and all those other fancy words you use, like cis a ...[text shortened]... ted in the one question….. why do liberals not figure out what an issue is and respond to the issue?

I already showed you that women volleyball players can spike at upwards of 70 mph, far higher velocity than the girl who right wingers have made a martyr of got hit.

And I'm going to ignore your question which has been answered dozens of times here.

@AverageJoe1 said
OK. We find that the fencer has had no such medicines or doctors or surgery or anything and just literally said I feel like a girl. (and I feel like winning a fencing match somewhere.) .
Should this MAN be allowed to compete against this girl?

What did USA Fencing's rules say?

How many male athletes go through at least 12 months of hormone suppression therapy?

@no1marauder said
What did USA Fencing's rules say?

How many male athletes go through at least 12 months of hormone suppression therapy?

Oh, I really confused you,,,,after months of this...

All of these queries....they ask for the opinion of the common man or woman, regarding the new practice of men wanting to go to a swim meet, (or fencing) walk up to the very swim managers and ask if they might enter the girl's competition, be it a big formal one, or a meet at the park pool. I myself have never included 'rules' of the local or global authorities, as consideration. There might not even be any such people, just a group of kids adn the girls say'Let's Race!!!! Yay!!!" Are you gonna keep playing games, Marauder? I have whipped your butt on this issue.

This very post of yours, replies to my post, to wit:

@AverageJoe1 said
""OK. We find that the fencer has had no such medicines or doctors or surgery or anything and just literally said I feel like a girl. (and I feel like winning a fencing match somewhere.) .
Should this MAN be allowed to compete against this girl?""

Your response..
'''What did USA Fencing's rules say?

How many male athletes go through at least 12 months of hormone suppression therapy?''

Everyone, thumbs up from all readers!! Thankyou very much. Marauder has been nailed.

@no1marauder said
I already showed you that women volleyball players can spike at upwards of 70 mph, far higher velocity than the girl who right wingers have made a martyr of got hit.

And I'm going to ignore your question which has been answered dozens of times here.

You need not 'answer' any more questions, i'll turn you lose.

@no1marauder said
What did USA Fencing's rules say?

How many male athletes go through at least 12 months of hormone suppression therapy?

This is the point, these ignorant dangerous rules supported and made by ignorant people for their own gain at the expense of others shouldn’t exist. There are major differences, their nothing alike and the fact you think they are the same shows your stupidity and willingness to just fall in line with whatever your told, good boy. Would you marry one of these people, sleep with one since their actually a woman, are you attracted to them, why not???, because their not a woman but they do have a right to be, no one is questioning that part.

@mike69 said
This is the point, these ignorant dangerous rules supported and made by ignorant people for their own gain at the expense of others shouldn’t exist. There are major differences, their nothing alike and the fact you think they are the same shows your stupidity and willingness to just fall in line with whatever your told, good boy. Would you marry one of these people, sleep wi ...[text shortened]... y not???, because their not a woman but they do have a right to be, no one is questioning that part.

Who's more knowledgeable about any possible advantage transgender women might have over cisgender ones in fencing - you, me or the experts consulted by USA Fencing?

The fact you think you are just shows your incredible arrogance.

@no1marauder said
Who's more knowledgeable about any possible advantage transgender women might have over cisgender ones in fencing - you, me or the experts consulted by USA Fencing?

The fact you think you are just shows your incredible arrogance.

You’re dumb as a rock, these people are falling in line just as you are and should be ashamed of themselves. Would you marry one if attracted to their looks and personhood? Why don’t we see lots of liberal men with these people if their so sure their a woman? Why are drugs used in an attempt to make their bodies more equal to a woman’s if they are a woman? I understand these people are upset they got a raw deal in their eyes, they feel like a woman but we’re born a man I’m sorry but do what you want nothings going to change that. I know I know but da here says what do the rules say over and over.

@mike69 said
You’re dumb as a rock, these people are falling in line just as you are and should be ashamed of themselves. Would you marry one if attracted to their looks and personhood? Why don’t we see lots of liberal men with these people if their so sure their a woman? Why are drugs used in an attempt to make their bodies more equal to a woman’s if they are a woman? I understand these ...[text shortened]... nothings going to change that. I know I know but da here says what do the rules say over and over.

What a moronic post. Sports organizations should be concerned about the fairness of competition not people's feelings of personal distaste for members of a group.

@no1marauder said
What a moronic post. Sports organizations should be concerned about the fairness of competition not people's feelings of personal distaste for members of a group.

Yes they should be and were this is a new breed of stupid just like you.

@mike69 said
Yes they should be and were this is a new breed of stupid just like you.

Medical and Sports Experts are "stupid"; ignorant right wing internet posters are more qualified to determine what equates to "fairness" in sports.

Laughable.

@no1marauder said
Medical and Sports Experts are "stupid"; ignorant right wing internet posters are more qualified to determine what equates to "fairness" in sports.

Laughable.

You don’t need to be a rocket scientist on this one good sir just lived life and noticed the differences. If a man can win woman of the year why don’t we see you liberal men dating and getting married to them are you going to answer on this side of the board?

@AverageJoe1 said
OK. We find that the fencer has had no such medicines or doctors or surgery or anything and just literally said I feel like a girl. (and I feel like winning a fencing match somewhere.) .
Should this MAN be allowed to compete against this girl?

Why are girls competing against adults?

@mike69 said
Yes they should be and were this is a new breed of stupid just like you.

Oh my goodness. Did you just say new breed?
Marauder, chime in here. I do think we are looking for a descriptive name to refer to these people’s makeup, there are so many categories……With junk, without, etc.
New Breed. Love it.

@no1marauder said
"Common sense" doesn't tell you whether at least a year of hormone suppression treatments eliminates any advantage transgender women might have over cisgender ones in the sport of fencing.

The medical and scientific experts USA Fencing relied on might.

That determination should be done by the sports organization, not politicians.

What's your stake in this?