@no1marauder saidNot their mental health, wait. 5 or 10 years and see the suicide rates from agendas and stupidity instead of using logic and common sense.
Actually they are being helped in accordance with their wishes and with accepted medical practices.
That right wing busy bodies don't like that is TFB.
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@no1marauder saidI think it's fair not to use federal funding for other people's abortions or physical gender-transitions, especially when so many would not agree to such funding.
Actually they are being helped in accordance with their wishes and with accepted medical practices.
That right wing busy bodies don't like that is TFB.
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@mike69 saidWe have:
Not their mental health, wait. 5 or 10 years and see the suicide rates from agendas and stupidity instead of using logic and common sense.
"A new study published today in JAMA Surgery found that gender-affirming surgery is associated with improved mental health outcomes among transgender people. The study was authored by researchers at Harvard Medical School, Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, The Fenway Institute at Fenway Health, and the Department of Psychiatry, Massachusetts General Hospital. It is the first large-scale, controlled study to demonstrate an association between gender-affirming surgery and improved mental health outcomes and adds important new knowledge to the field as there is little high-quality evidence regarding the mental health effects of gender-affirming surgery."
"The study, titled “Association Between Gender-Affirming Surgeries and Mental Health Outcomes,” compared the psychological distress, substance use, and suicide risk of 3,559 transgender people who had undergone gender-affirming surgery with those of 16,401 transgender people who desired gender-affirming surgery but had not yet undergone any. It found that transgender people who had received one or more gender-affirming surgical procedures had a 42% reduction in the odds of experiencing past-month psychological distress, a 35% reduction in the odds of past-year tobacco smoking, and a 44% reduction in the odds of past-year suicidal ideation.
This study also found that people who received all of the gender-affirming surgeries they desired had significant reductions in the odds of every adverse mental health outcome examined, including past-year suicide attempts and past-month binge alcohol use. Furthermore, compared to people who only received some of the gender-affirming surgeries they desired, people who received all of their desired surgeries experienced even more profound mental health benefits across every outcome."
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EDIT: The dreaded "WORD TOO LONG". Plug this search into Google and you should find the article: New Study Shows Transgender People Who Receive …
Also: https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-health-and-wellness/hormone-therapy-linked-lower-suicide-risk-trans-youths-study-finds-rcna8617
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@no1marauder saidAny studies about guys who switched genders so that they could compete and win in women's sports?
We have:
"A new study published today in JAMA Surgery found that gender-affirming surgery is associated with improved mental health outcomes among transgender people. The study was authored by researchers at Harvard Medical School, Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, The Fenway Institute at Fenway Health, and the Department of Psychiatry, Massachusetts General H ...[text shortened]... ing-surgery-are-significantly-less-likely-to-experience-psychological-distress-or-suicidal-ideation/
@no1marauder saidThat’s more stupidity from your side, I could post others saying otherwise. It’s never been done before on this scale due to feeding bs to these mentally unwell people that need true help, look at their average ages of the trans. I will say of course their will be a small number of people it actually does help that put serious thought (years) and maturity along with true understanding of themselves and needs for internal happiness. Right now your side is pumping it up like it’s the best thing since cotton candy. I can think for myself logically and it’s sad a person of your intelligence can’t and just agrees with whatever your told is true and fact. What’s even more sad is the huge number of people just like you.
We have:
"A new study published today in JAMA Surgery found that gender-affirming surgery is associated with improved mental health outcomes among transgender people. The study was authored by researchers at Harvard Medical School, Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, The Fenway Institute at Fenway Health, and the Department of Psychiatry, Massachusetts General H ...[text shortened]... /out-health-and-wellness/hormone-therapy-linked-lower-suicide-risk-trans-youths-study-finds-rcna8617
@mike69 saidWhat's sad is that right wingers are soooooooooooooooooooo arrogant that they take it on themselves to decide what is best for people they admittedly know next to nothing about.
That’s more stupidity from your side, I could post others saying otherwise. It’s never been done before on this scale due to feeding bs to these mentally unwell people that need true help, look at their average ages of the trans. I will say of course their will be a small number of people it actually does help that put serious thought (years) and maturity along with true und ...[text shortened]... atever your told is true and fact. What’s even more sad is the huge number of people just like you.
I don't have any real opinion on whether people should or shouldn't have gender affirming treatments only that they should have that option and not be penalized for choosing to.
@no1marauder saidIt’s people that have never been accepted, don’t fit in with everyone else, finally getting acceptance through a cotton candy lie of true happiness. I understand that because that’s how I am, just not gay, my heart goes out to them. What I’m saying is it’s a serious matter that can’t be fixed back, let people choose, but don’t make it popular and exciting full of bs. There has been gay people as long as I’ve been alive it doesn’t bother me or anyone else, but it shouldn’t be forced on women and girls and everyone else along with all that comes with it like locker rooms, bathrooms and sports to name a few.
What's sad is that right wingers are soooooooooooooooooooo arrogant that they take it on themselves to decide what is best for people they admittedly know next to nothing about.
I don't have any real opinion on whether people should or shouldn't have gender affirming treatments only that they should have that option and not be penalized for choosing to.
@no1marauder saidDid you just use the phrase gender affirming treatments?
What's sad is that right wingers are soooooooooooooooooooo arrogant that they take it on themselves to decide what is best for people they admittedly know next to nothing about.
I don't have any real opinion on whether people should or shouldn't have gender affirming treatments only that they should have that option and not be penalized for choosing to.
Does anyone here think that the erudite all-knowing No1Maurauder should answer yes or no to my question, has the fencer had his junk removed?
If he would simply do that, then we could read all of his posts with a better feel for what is stepping into the ring with this wonderful dedicated female fencer. It would for me, anyway. Those of us with no medical training such as that of the learned Marauder might better see what he is talking about.
I would ask him, if I were a lathe operator and accidentally cut of my tallywhacker, would I be a woman by default? Or, A man AND a woman? My granny asked this question .
@mike69 saidI could point you to websites like the American Psychological Association which would explain that gender identification and sexual preference are not the same (and thus transgender people aren't necessarily "gay"😉 but I suspect that would be a waste of time.
It’s people that have never been accepted, don’t fit in with everyone else, finally getting acceptance through a cotton candy lie of true happiness. I understand that because that’s how I am, just not gay, my heart goes out to them. What I’m saying is it’s a serious matter that can’t be fixed back, let people choose, but don’t make it popular and exciting full of bs. There ...[text shortened]... eryone else along with all that comes with it like locker rooms, bathrooms and sports to name a few.
Sometimes respecting the rights of others means putting aside our personal distaste for them. For example there were a lot of racists who were "forced" to eat in the same restaurants as blacks after being raised where they didn't have to, but few now think that's a big deal (and the great majority have little sympathy for those who do).
It's my belief this will eventually happen with transgender people similarly to how gay marriage was eventually accepted by the majority even though right wingers spent a decade screeching about it.
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Did you just use the phrase gender affirming treatments?
Does anyone here think that the erudite all-knowing No1Maurauder should answer yes or no to my question, has the fencer had his junk removed?
If he would simply do that, then we could read all of his posts with a better feel for what is stepping into the ring with this wonderful dedicated female fencer. I ...[text shortened]... tallywhacker, would I be a woman by default? Or, A man AND a woman? My granny asked this question .
Already posted, but I'll do it again and put some in bold:
"I've wasted enough time with such idiocy. IF USA Fencing determines that a year of hormone suppression treatments (such treatments reduce the amount of testosterone which is the primary determinant of sports performance differences between the sexes) mitigates any possible advantage a transgender woman might have in fencing over a cisgender one that's good enough for me. I have no idea and don't care what Redmond Sullivan's "junk" looks like but her results show that, at least in her case, being transgender has given her no advantage over other women in her chosen sport."
Now will I have to post the same thing 20 more times?
I will note that in other threads you and the other right wingers have claimed it does not matter IF the transgender woman has had a vaginoplasty or not (https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/treatment-tests-and-therapies/vaginoplasty-for-gender-affirmation), so why this sudden obsession with people's "junk" matters is unclear. Surely you're not suggesting that the mere presence of one type of "junk" gives one an advantage in sports competition or are you?
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any possible advantage a transgender woman might have in fencing over a cisgender one that's good enough for me. I have no idea and don't care what Redmond Sullivan's "junk" looks like but her results show that, at least in her case, being transgender has given her no advantage over other women in her chosen sport."OK, an excerpt of your post, tucked away in a bit of overkill on this subject. Thankyou, I did not see it., what with all the plethora.
You are saying that you do not know if he has his junk, and for some reason throw in what it might look like.
Do you think he still has larger hands, not feminine-type hands, and larger muscles, not feminine-type muscles?
Yes, you will say that some women have larger hands, muscles, etc than do men, in your effort to make light of the fact that a man can bury a woman in the sports world. Have at it, but you'ain't kidding anyone. You might recall how much 'larger' Lia Thomas' was in every way, up against (and beating ) Riley Gaines.? Tell us about fair, Marauder.
My uncle Mort accidentally lost his member in a lathe accident. Is he a girl now? Or, does he get to choose if he is a man or a woman? What does he tell the driver license bureau to put on his driver license.
There is no way that you can win this argument in any venue.
It is astounding that you can sit there and defend a man at some event who walks on and pronounces, to the judges and everyone else, that he is a woman.
I can understand a guy like me walking on, and saying. "" I am a man, and I demand my constitutional right to compete with the women": We can all get our brain around that, but not around your foolish premise.