College Female Fencer Refuses to compete against male trans "woman"

@no1marauder said
Grow up, you pathetic POS.

There's been medical procedures for sex change for about 70 years. That Donald Trump decided to ignore reality to appease right wing hate doesn't change that fact.

The medical reality is that you cannot change sex.
Portray yourself as whatever you choose but don’t expect to be able to infiltrate womens sport because of your delusion.

How many transgender men play in men’s sport?

@no1marauder said
Until last year, all 50 States permitted persons to change their gender on their driver license. Now "only" 46 do.https://www.bankrate.com/insurance/car/changing-gender-on-license/

The fact that you and other right wingers insist the gender cannot be altered doesn't mean sports organization should accept your delusion.

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"""""Humans cannot change sex, which was determined at fertilization (genotype) and during embryonic development (phenotype). People may change many features about their lives, such as their interests, hobbies, diet, friends or careers.""""

I think Marauder is about to drop off th radar

@no1marauder said
Here you answer a Yes or No question:

Is a transgender woman who's driver's license reads "Female" a man?

Follow me here. I do not know what a transgender woman is. I swear. Is it a man who is going to be, in his eyes, a woman, or is it a woman who, in her eyes, is going to be a man?
PLEASE Clarify.

@rtmiller said
The medical reality is that you cannot change sex.
Portray yourself as whatever you choose but don’t expect to be able to infiltrate womens sport because of your delusion.

How many transgender men play in men’s sport?

Medical organizations don't agree with your "medical reality":

AMA: ". Our AMA supports policies that allow for a change of sex designation on birth certificates for transgender individuals based upon verification by a physician (MD or DO) that the individual has undergone gender transition according to applicable medical standards of care." https://assets.ama-assn.org/sub/meeting/documents/i16-resolution-212.pdf

APA: "We recognize health as a basic human right for every person, regardless of gender identity or sexual orientation. For gender-diverse individuals, including children and adolescents, this means access to gender-affirming care that is part of comprehensive primary care." https://www.psychiatry.org/newsroom/news-releases/frontline-physicians-oppose-legislation-that-interferes-in-or-criminalizes-patient-care

ASPS: "ASPS firmly believes that plastic surgery services can help gender dysphoria patients align their bodies with whom they know themselves to be and improve their overall mental health and well-being. The Society will continue its efforts to advocate for full access to medically necessary transition care and stand up to those who oppose it – from the board rooms of big tech to Capitol Hill."

https://www.plasticsurgery.org/for-medical-professionals/advocacy/advocacy-news/asps-challenges-big-tech-censorship-of-gender-affirming-care

Yes, there have been and still are transgender men competing in men's events: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/athletes-assigned-female-transitioned-mens-sports/

https://www.outsports.com/2025/1/16/22850789/trans-athletes-college-ncaa-lia-thomas/

@AverageJoe1 said
Follow me here. I do not know what a transgender woman is. I swear. Is it a man who is going to be, in his eyes, a woman, or is it a woman who, in her eyes, is going to be a man?
PLEASE Clarify.

You blather a lot about a subject you admit you know nothing about.

"The National Center for Transgender Equality defines transgender people as those who have a different gender identity to their assigned gender at birth. Some people may also use “trans” as a shortened version for transgender.

Gender identity is the innate knowledge of who a person is. Every person has a gender identity, which may match their assigned sex at birth, or it may be different.

A healthcare professional usually assigns newborns either a male or female sex at birth. If people identify with a different gender to the one they were assigned, they may describe themselves as transgender.

A transgender woman is someone who is currently living as a woman but was assigned a male sex at birth. A transgender man is someone who is currently living as a man but was assigned a female sex at birth."

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/what-is-transgender#definition

@AverageJoe1 said
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"""""Humans cannot change sex, which was determined at fertilization (genotype) and during embryonic development (phenotype). People may change many features about their lives, such as their interests, hobbies, diet, friends or careers.""""

I think Marauder is about to drop off th radar

If you're going to quote something, could you cite the source?

@AverageJoe1 said
You close-minded Marauder followers.......he says, right here, that a random person sitting at a card taable beside a volley ball court can decide that it is OK for this man to step onto the playing field with your daughter, who is going to be subject to being hurt. Men naturally hurt. My brother could break your arm easily.....my sister could not hurt you even if she tried. Marauder's pompousness and ill-conceived observations are wearing thin.

Preposterous. Stick to your day job.

@Suzianne said
Preposterous. Stick to your day job.

Yeah, Marauder doesn't like my 'guy at card table waives a male into a female swim meet', either. Puts a chink in his reasoning about 'if the male is allowed in, it is OK'.
Marauder would have to justify that decision to the mom and dad who have shepherded their daughter through years of preparation for the Olympics.
Marauder nor you can rationalize that.
The Forum can be hell.

@rtmiller said
The medical reality is that you cannot change sex.
Portray yourself as whatever you choose but don’t expect to be able to infiltrate womens sport because of your delusion.

How many transgender men play in men’s sport?

Note that Marauder's explanation just above in his crusade to homogenize people does not say that 'people can change their sex'. Instead, he is blazing new trails in development of the human species. Very creepy bot, he is.

@AverageJoe1 said
Yeah, Marauder doesn't like my 'guy at card table waives a male into a female swim meet', either. Puts a chink in his reasoning about 'if the male is allowed in, it is OK'.
Marauder would have to justify that decision to the mom and dad who have shepherded their daughter through years of preparation for the Olympics.
Marauder nor you can rationalize that.
The Forum can be hell.

Leave it to the organizers of the event and the rules committee to make the rules.

Don't like it, don't play.

@Suzianne said
Leave it to the organizers of the event and the rules committee to make the rules.

Don't like it, don't play.

YOu make my point. A volunteer at the admittance table is approached by a guy who says he woke up a woman this morning. The volunteer says, cool, you will swim in Lane 6.
The parents of the girl with dreams of making the Olympics? The girl who is a shoo-in to win the competition and advance to the state finals, and then to Olympics in Paris................ They and their daughter will see her dream shattered.
Her name is Suzianne Smith. She was going to be somebody. Her life is over. The big-hands and muscle guy will have his name in the papers tomorrow, she will have nothing. She will quit swimming.
You are Marauderanne.

@AverageJoe1 said
YOu make my point. A volunteer at the admittance table is approached by a guy who says he woke up a woman this morning. The volunteer says, cool, you will swim in Lane 6.
The parents of the girl with dreams of making the Olympics? The girl who is a shoo-in to win the competition and advance to the state finals, and then to Olympics in Paris................ They a ...[text shortened]... in the papers tomorrow, she will have nothing. She will quit swimming.
You are Marauderanne.

How many times are you going to post such a fantasy? It's never happened.

@AverageJoe1 said
Note that Marauder's explanation just above in his crusade to homogenize people does not say that 'people can change their sex'. Instead, he is blazing new trails in development of the human species. Very creepy bot, he is.

The American Medical Association favors people being able to change their sex on their driver's license if they receive certain medical procedures.

You know more about such matters than medical professionals?

@no1marauder said
You blather a lot about a subject you admit you know nothing about.

"The National Center for Transgender Equality defines transgender people as those who have a different gender identity to their assigned gender at birth. Some people may also use “trans” as a shortened version for transgender.

Gender identity is the innate knowledge of who a person is. Every person ...[text shortened]... a female sex at birth."

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/what-is-transgender#definition

You use the word 'assigned' as it is normal nomenclature, everyday patlance in our society. You've done that with the phrase Natural Law or Rights, , or whatevr the hell you call this unknown concept. Ask your barber what it is. Jesus.
Then you go into your usual word salad about something that is Reeeeal simple. You see, the govt truly cannot 'rule' what some one is. You are saying right here that the govt or a baby nurse or anyone other than God makes the final decision. I don't mean to go King David on you, but this is what your 'natural' world has bestowed on this child during a 9-month period. God looks down, says, ahhh, my masterpiece, this child will be the man who brings everyone back to beleive!! But what in the hell, he sees you say that this Boy, to become a leader of God, is now being called a Girl!?!??!!?!?
Theoretically, you may become president, and you and Bernie et al will decide to 'assign' whatever you want to a baby. "He may have junk, but we need more girls, as they are more likely to vote liberal." I'm being silly? Not really, ....why don't you tell us where you would draw the line in that case. Funny how everyting has been OK up until your generation, whatever that is. Change the name of your weird Natural concept to Natural Change. Boy to Girl, Illegal to Legal!! Oh boy!

Government my ass. You may be the ultimate dependent,,,,,I have overlooked that!!!!

@no1marauder said
The American Medical Association favors people being able to change their sex on their driver's license if they receive certain medical procedures.

You know more about such matters than medical professionals?

Thought the issue was the med issue. You make it a 'put on the driver license' issue. This stems from the need of libs to incorporate all people together.
I don't think you get it.