Who of the “trinity” became flesh?

@sonship said"For it is testified, "You are a Priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek." (Heb. 7:17)

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@divegeester

A priest isn’t a king sonship.

According to your doctrine, the kingship of the kingdom has been handed over by one person (the son) to another person,(the father). Therefore the son is no longer king.

This problem is a symptom of the trinity teaching.

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@sonship said

This problem is a symptom of the trinity teaching.

I am willing to admit that it is not easy for the human mind to fully comprehend or explain.

@sonship said
Delivering up the kingdom to His God and Father cannot mean that the Son of the Most High terminates the kingdom given to Him.

@divegeester said
What your doctrine teaches is contradictory to scripture as I have just point out, quite well I might add.

This king / priest of Genesis points to Jesus Christ - "For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him . . ." (Heb. 7:1)

And he is likened to the Son of God who has "[no] end of life."

"Being without father, without mother, without genealogy; having neither beginning of days nor end of life, but likened to the Son of God, abides a priest perpetually." (Heb. 7:3)

I do not know what you mean by any "office of son" not continuing on forever.
Unless you explain more about that it doesn't agree with what I read in the bible.

I do know that the love of Christ surpasses all understanding. So though I say the depths of full comprehension is beyond me the enjoyment of His love is quite, quite near.

"And to know the knowledge surpassing love of Christ . . ." (Eph. 3:19)

Again the love and also the peace of God fills the believers and surpasses every man's understanding. His mysterious living peace keeps our minds and hearts on this indwelling One - Christ Jesus.

"And the peace of God, which surpasses every man's understanding, will guard your hearts and your thoughts in Christ Jesus." (Phil. 4:7)

By the way, 90% of the time I do not cut and paste.
I copy verses by hand from the Bible on my desk.
I get to enjoy them more that way, though it is risky.

When copying from Biblehub, I do some cut and paste though.

On the contrary it cannot mean anything else. You just won’t accept that you are mistaken and that your doctrine is erroneous.

The ONLY way the multiple scriptures on this topic make any sense is if the one entity is manifesting in multiple ways, but effective remain in the same “person”, rather than multiple personalities somehow inhabiting a godhead and causing confusion over which one is actually THE ONE King.

According to the trinity doctrine God is made up of three distinct persons, each with shared but also different attributes. This is despite the Bible insisting all the way through that God is one.

Person 1 the father
- the father is also a spirit and co equal with the other 2 persons. No one really understands what co equal means as there is only one king and one throne.

Person 2 the son
- according to the trinity doctrine, the son is “eternal” and co-equal with the Father who is a spirit...and the holy spirt who is also a spirit. Jesus Christ also has an active spirit called “the spirit of Christ”. This third spirt was active in the Old Testament according to scripture

Person three the Holy Spirit
- the Holy Spirit only appear in the Bible from Acts onwards and is sent by Jesus or the spirit of Christ. Despite being co-equal the holy spirit “does not speak of himself” but only bears witness to the authority of the spirit of Jesus Christ. The father spirit is not active again until revelation, as all references are to “the spirit of Christ or the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is referred to by Jesus himself as being the “councillor”.

Confused yet?

In revelation scripture tells us that the son, who is co-equal to the father remember, will hand over the KINGDOM to the father. Therefore the Father will be King of the Kingdom and the son will be...well a Prince, one supposes.

And yet iIsaiah say that the the kingdom of the son will never end. So that’s odd isn’t it.

Isaiah also says that the child who is born (that is Jesus) shall be called (among other things) “Everlasting Father” and “wonderful councillor”

So here’s the thing.

How can the trinity notion be correct when clearly all three persons in this version of God are NOT co-equal, the son’s reign over the kingdom ends when he hands it over to the the father, and Jesus himself will be called ... “EVERLASTING FATHER” and “WONDERFUL COUNCILLOR”

There is one possible explanation for Christians to accept which is that rather than there being THREE PERSONS in this strange god of contradiction, there is ONE PERSON being revealed in many ways over the millennia.

Wether one is atheist or not, the theological principle I’m putting forward is so obvious that surely even a child could understand it.

@divegeester said
According to the trinity doctrine God is made up of three distinct persons, each with shared but also different attributes. This is despite the Bible insisting all the way through that God is one.

Person 1 the father
- the father is also a spirit and co equal with the other 2 persons. No one really understands what co equal means as there is only one king and one th ...[text shortened]... heological principle I’m putting forward is so obvious that surely even a child could understand it.

@rajk999 said
You know what is WONDERFUL about all of that? Nobody is going to be condemned for believing either way.

@sonship said

Does the Son go away, disappear, obliterate, cease to BE ?

If I am stupid here and you're very confident that the obvious is clear to you, please tell me what happens to the Son after the "hand over". And what of His varied functions or offices once this "hand over" has taken place ?