13 Apr '21 04:33>
An open question then...
If there is such a thing as the trinity, then which part or parts of the trinity became flesh?
If there is such a thing as the trinity, then which part or parts of the trinity became flesh?
@divegeester said@sonship
An open question then...
If there is such a thing as the trinity, then which part or parts of the trinity became flesh?
@divegeester saidGood question. I can bet the answer will be a bunch of mumbo jumbo followed by the claim that it is mysterious and experiential but nobody can understand it.
An open question then...
If there is such a thing as the trinity, then which part or parts of the trinity became flesh?
@divegeester saidWhen I get a span of time to concentrate I will post something on this question.
@sonship
Would you care to comment on this question?
If there is such a thing as the trinity, then which part or parts of the trinity became flesh?
@sonship saidHow does that all 100% fullness translate into power, authority and knowledge. The very same bible also says:
@divegeester
If there is such a thing as the trinity, then which part or parts of the trinity became flesh?
Take the statements of the Bible to be your guide on this matter of incarnation.
"For in Him [Christ] all the fullness was pleased to dwell" (Col. 1:19)
It did not say one third of the fullness was pleased to dwell. ...[text shortened]... I cannot understand it as 2/3 of the fullness was not pleased to dwell in Christ bodily but 1/3 was.
How does that all 100% fullness translate into power, authority and knowledge. The very same bible also says:
- God is Greater than Christ
- God is the Head of Christ
- Christ prays to God and not the other way around[ /quote]
After reading about Jesus praying to the Father the verses of
Col. 1:19 and Col.2:9 did not suddenly disappear from the Bible.
I reserve the right to believe ALL that the Bible has taught.
It has taught both the praying of Jesus to the Father and that the fullness of the Godhead dwells in Him bodily.
I refuse to use one verse to suppress the other.
I refuse to use the other verse to suppress the one.
I trust God has told the truth in telling us BOTH.
[quote]
- God knows more than Christ
- God is the Father and Christ is the Son
- Christ is between God and man as he is the mediator.
There is no equality. How is that 100% anything.
@sonship saidIf both are stated in the bible then the issue is indeterminate and firm conclusions cannot be made. Therefore the wise Christian will refrain from doing several things to avoid going off on a tangent and venturing into false doctrines such as:
It says both.
I believe both.
God whom I trust has told us both.
- God is the Head of Christ
The word of God says both things.
If both are stated in the bible then the issue is indeterminate and firm conclusions cannot be made.
Therefore the wise Christian will refrain from doing several things to avoid going off on a tangent and venturing into false doctrines such as:
- calling the whole thing a Trinity in which all three parts of the Godhead are equal and eternal
- claiming superiority over others who do not believe in the Trinity
@sonship saidOk you are venturing into nonsense talk again. Clearly your ability to focus is short-lived. Carry on.
@Rajk999
If both are stated in the bible then the issue is indeterminate and firm conclusions cannot be made.
An eternally FIRM conclusion can be made by receiving Christ through faith.
"As many as received Him to them He gave authority to become children of God."
[quote]
Therefore the wise Christian will refrain from doing several things ...[text shortened]... according to Christ;
For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily." (Col. 2;8,9)[/b]
@sonship saidSo can I get you to be clear please, you are saying that all 3 distinct persons of Father, Son and Holy Spirit dwelt within the Son, Jesus?
@divegeester
Take the statements of the Bible to be your guide on this matter of incarnation.
"For in Him [Christ] all the fullness was pleased to dwell" (Col. 1:19)
It did not say one third of the fullness was pleased to dwell. I cannot understand it as 2/3 of the fullness was not pleased to dwell in Christ bodily but 1/3 was.
@divegeester saidAnd what do you think you get if you "win"?
So can I get you to be clear please, you are saying that all 3 distinct persons of Father, Son and Holy Spirit dwelt within the Son, Jesus?