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The Health Risks of Gay Sex

The Health Risks of Gay Sex

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Originally posted by Proper Knob
Your religious beliefs concerning homosexuality and you how you corroborate those views with 'scientific data' is not about you? Is this a wind up?
I did not write the Bible, i did not author the report that i am trying to discuss.


The rather hapless and reeling robbie has just deployed the 'chess rating argument'!😵

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I did not write the Bible, i did not author the report that i am trying to discuss.
Is your personal opinion influenced by the Bible? Do you personally accept and agree with the report?

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I did not write the Bible, i did not author the report that i am trying to discuss.
I haven't written any literature on evolutionary biology but it is still my opinion, backed up by mountains of evidence, that life on this planet evolved.


Originally posted by FMF
The rather hapless and reeling robbie has just deployed the 'chess rating argument'!😵
He's trolling us. Time to leave him be.

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Originally posted by Proper Knob
I haven't written any literature on evolutionary biology but it is still my opinion, backed up by mountains of evidence, that life on this planet evolved.
well then discuss it and when you do, make sure you discuss evolutionary biology and not the person behind the ideas.

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Originally posted by Proper Knob
He's trolling us. Time to leave him be.
chess is an intellectual exercise but two points remain unanswered,

1. where has Dr. Diggs stated that one cannot make a moral distinction between homosexuality and child rape, proposed by both FMF and Rank Vader

2.where has Dr. Diggs stated that the data with regard to 'fisting', is representative of all homosexuals, proposed by Smell Palfie

thanks.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
1. where has Dr. Diggs stated that one cannot make a moral distinction between homosexuality and child rape, proposed by both FMF and Rank Vader
All sex that an adult has with a child is "rape", by definition, and the rapist is a paedophile, by definition. Diggs has deliberately conflated homosexuality with paedophilia (and other sexual activities and orientations). Rank Outsider quoted Diggs verbatim on page 28.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
1. where has Dr. Diggs stated that one cannot make a moral distinction between homosexuality and child rape, proposed by both FMF and Rank Vader.
On a small point, would you please stop calling me names after Darth Vader? I don't find it amusing, and I have never labelled you with any similar terms.

I will happily retract that statement if I said that but, barring a typo, I didn't so I won't.

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Originally posted by Rank outsider
On a small point, would you please stop calling me names after Darth Vader? I don't find it amusing, and I have never labelled you with any similar terms.

I will happily retract that statement if I said that but, barring a typo, I didn't so I won't.
yes you will be happy, here are your words,

'You can logically distinguish between the two because one is a consensual act between adults, and the other is a non-consensual act perpetrated against a minor. (implication of rape)

Only you and Dr Diggs can't see the difference' - Rank Outsider

I will ask you once again, where has Doctor Diggs implied that there is no moral distinction between homosexuality and child rape?

and yes i will be happy to refrain from terming you anything other than Rank Outsider.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I will ask you once again, where has Doctor Diggs implied that there is no moral distinction between homosexuality and child rape?
See my post above. You may not want to respond but there is no use you pretending the post is not there.

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Originally posted by FMF
The rather hapless and reeling robbie has just deployed the 'chess rating argument'!😵
As I have a few moments to spare, let me extend the chess analogy.

Suppose you asked for a view from a player rated 800 ELO on the next best move. You will get a move of 800 ELO.

Suppose you ask 10 800 ELO players what the next best move is? You get a move of 800 ELO (well, maybe a bit higher as it may reduce the number of really bad errors).

If a 2200 ELO player turns up, and you have any sense at all, you will ignore all the 800 players and go with the 2200 player.

So, if you obtain your evidence on gay sexual activity from one hopelessly biased source, you have one piece of hopelessly biased evidence. Which you should probably ignore.

If you then trawl homophobic websites that are clearly making statistics up, and obtain more such data, you just end up with a larger pile of worthless evidence. You are not improving your knowledge base and you cannot apply 'ranges' or 'averages' to this and claim increasing accuracy or relevance.

If, on the other hand, you can find one reliable source, you should just chuck the rest away and see if you can find more to corroborate it.

Dr Diggs doesn't do this, because he doesn't want to.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yes you will be happy, here are your words,

'You can logically distinguish between the two because one is a consensual act between adults, and the other is a non-consensual act perpetrated against a minor. (implication of rape)

Only you and Dr Diggs can't see the difference' - Rank Outsider

I will ask you once again, where has Doctor Diggs ...[text shortened]... pe?

and yes i will be happy to refrain from terming you anything other than Rank Outsider.
Thank you.

I am off home now, and I am out this evening. Will respond tomorrow.


Originally posted by robbie carrobie
'You can logically distinguish between the two because one is a consensual act between adults, and the other is a non-consensual act perpetrated against a minor. (implication of rape)
"A non-consensual act perpetrated against a minor" is rape, robbie. Not an "implication of rape". It is rape, by definition. Unless you disagree?


Originally posted by robbie carrobie
still not about me
You expressed some confusion before over why threads that purport to feature your "arguments" about various topics often end up only devolving into discussions "about you".

Well, here, I'll explain it to you, since you cannot seem to figure out why on your own.

First off, you may want to ask yourself why this always seems to happen to you. After all, it doesn't happen to many posters; or it happens rarely. But with you, it always seems to happen doesn't it? It's because your "arguments" do not actually give any insight into the topics at hand. They almost always only end up giving insight into your own psychology. Take this thread for instance. I'm not really sure you have presented any actual "argument" here, but you sure did give a lot of insight into how you treat source material selection. And wow is it irresponsible and shameful. That's why it devolves into discussion about you.

Best advice I can give you, if you want to avoid threads becoming "about you" is to develop some intellectual integrity and responsible inquiry habits. Then maybe you would come up with actual arguments worth taking seriously.

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