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Sometimes you and fall short of keeping the word of His endurance.
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Sometimes you [and I] fall short of keeping the word of His endurance.
@medullah saidI am a member of an Episcopal church, which is the American equivalent of the Anglican churches.
When you say "main line" does that also embrace Catholic and Protestant/Anglican, coz I cant say that i have ever heard of either saying too much about Revelation.
@sonship saidIt’s irrelevant what I think is meaningless concerning the Bible given that I am 100% convinced that it’s a work fantastical fiction.
@kevcvs57
[quote] So it’s open to the interpretation to the point of meaninglessness.
I’m guessing there are as many bibles as there are Christians and then throw in how each Christian is feeling on any given day that they are reading / interpreting it into the equation and your close to an infinite number of bibles for all intents and purposes.
Don’t feel bad though we in ...[text shortened]... o far was without meaning, I
will consider that.
Thanks
Now what was meaningless to you?
@suzianne saidThat's really interesting, thank you for taking the time to explain.
I am a member of an Episcopal church, which is the American equivalent of the Anglican churches.
When I said mainline, I meant Protestant churches, but I'm sure the Catholics have similar teachings.
Most churches I've been to and talked with their members, and most are a bit more concerned with living by following Christ in the here and now, helping their fellow man (y ...[text shortened]... hed ideas of a Tribulation and Antichrist, and, in most cases, some form of rapture event or events.
@kevcvs57 saidThat is (from my point of view) a fair observation. Love goes out of the window and we do see things getting very pointed around here.
It’s irrelevant what I think is meaningless concerning the Bible given that I am 100% convinced that it’s a work fantastical fiction.
I meant meaningless, or perhaps a better word is useless, in the sense of it being a binding text for Christians.
Suzianne points out that the vast majority of the text is agreed upon by the vast majority of Christians.
Would you agree wit ...[text shortened]... ty forum per se it’s more of a gladiatorial arena where the Christians are thrown to the Christians.
@medullah saidAnd there is a very long list of those teachings, many of which the churches claim you MUST believe in, or do, in order to be 'saved' or get eternal life. Some of these churches really have become the worst place to be if you want to follow Christ and get eternal life.
Personally I cant subscribe to teaching not defined in the bible,
@medullah saidWell I wouldn’t argue with the description of political powers as beasts but I would suggest that those beasts have been with us since before the authorship of revelations and were probably written with the authors contemporary beasts in mind.
That is (from my point of view) a fair observation. Love goes out of the window and we do see things getting very pointed around here.
On your point of fantastical fiction I have waited for over 35 years for now. I have always believed in the time (based on that fiction) when the US/UK Alliance would dominate the scene and bring in the Mark of The Beast (Rev 13:16) , whic ...[text shortened]... port. Earlier interviews with Bill Gates suggests this to be the case.
Beasts = political powers.
It’s irrelevant what I think is meaningless concerning the Bible given that I am 100% convinced that it’s a work fantastical fiction.
I meant meaningless, or perhaps a better word is useless, in the sense of it being a binding text for Christians.
Suzianne points out that the vast majority of the text is agreed upon by the vast majority of Christians.
Would you agree with that appraisal?
I have to say as a non Christian who pops in here from time to time it’s not the impression I get, I would guess that rather than this being a spirituality forum per se it’s more of a gladiatorial arena where the Christians are thrown to the Christians.
It’s irrelevant what I think is meaningless concerning the Bible given that I am 100% convinced that it’s a work fantastical fiction.
@rajk999 saidHistorically you could even been put to death for not adopting them, the holy trinity being a good example.
And there is a very long list of those teachings, many of which the churches claim you MUST believe in, or do, in order to be 'saved' or get eternal life. Some of these churches really have become the worst place to be if you want to follow Christ and get eternal life.
@kevcvs57 saidI get that it isn't your thing but check out Revelation 13 - quite a way ahead of its time and needed a certain level of technology to enforce.
Well I wouldn’t argue with the description of political powers as beasts but I would suggest that those beasts have been with us since before the authorship of revelations and were probably written with the authors contemporary beasts in mind.
@medullah saidYes the Catholic Church was very corrupt. They still are but in a more subtle way.
Historically you could even been put to death for not adopting them, the holy trinity being a good example.
@sonship saidI do what most Europeans have done for millennia I celebrate my survival to the mid winter point by eating the foods I preserved during the late summer and autumn.
@kevcvs57It’s irrelevant what I think is meaningless concerning the Bible given that I am 100% convinced that it’s a work fantastical fiction.
Okay.
What do you do on Christmas?
Do you think there is ANY conceivable background in history contributing to celebrating the birth of Jesus?
I did not say do you think everything about the tradi ...[text shortened]... believe the tradition of celebrating the birth of Jesus is rooted 100% in pure fantastical fiction?