Predestination. True or false?

@divegeester said
No I don’t.
One scripture was good enough for you to make your case, so it’s good enough for me to use also.

Next.

Here you go peanut butter, this is where we are at… ^^

@pb1022 said
You’re using my Scripture. You should use your own.

It’s not your scripture.

You are going to be a dick aren’t you. This is good topic why ruin it because you’ve been on the contraband.

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Obviously you are mistaken.

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Seeing as how the biblical text supports both perspectives, you are mistaken in your claim that they cannot co-exist.

And seeing as how I do not believe that hell exists, as evidenced by the bible stating that predestination does exist, then your “god is a monster” is a moot blurt.

I don’t see how God can justly take away someone’s decision about whether he wants to be born *and* take away his free will in deciding where to spend eternity.

I think God can justly take away one or the other but not both, especially if the damned spend eternity in hell.

And since no one has a say in whether he’s born…

@divegeester said
It’s not your scripture.

You are going to be a dick aren’t you. This is good topic why ruin it because you’ve been on the contraband.

Just high on life

@pb1022 said
I don’t see how God can justly take away someone’s decision about whether he wants to be born *and* take away his free will in deciding where to spend eternity.

I think God can justly take away one or the other but not both, especially if the damned spend eternity in hell.

And since no one has a say in whether he’s born…

Your understanding is not required as prerequisite for us exploring what the Bible says.

I refer you to the raft of scriptures I provided on page one.

@pb1022 said
Just high on life

I suspect you to have been a drug user when you were here before; please refrain from allowing any residual habit ruin the opportunity to you have to contribute to this forum.

If predestination is true, why pray?

@divegeester said
Your understanding is not required as prerequisite for us exploring what the Bible says.

I refer you to the raft of scriptures I provided on page one.

And that “raft of Scriptures” you provided on page one could just as easily support my position that some are predestined to be saved, but none are predestined to be damned.

@galveston75 said
If predestination is true, why pray?

If predestination is true, what’s the purpose of evangelizing, missionaries and the Great Commossion?