Deification of man

Look Ghost of a Duke.

You go ahead and think whatever it is you need to think.
If this little issue is the major or only thing you have as a beef against "the organism of the Triune God Himself" (as to how I treated its mention) I am really not that concerned.

If I want to go examine some scholarly counterpoint about Witness Lee using that phrase, I know where and to whom I will find a more effective critique of the phrase, probably - Norm Geisler or Ron Rhodes.

A vine true with its branches and its fruit can be thought of as one ORGANISM.

@sonship said
Look Ghost of a Duke.

You go ahead and think whatever it is you need to think.
If this little issue is the major or only thing you have as a beef against "the organism of the Triune God Himself" (as to how I treated its mention) I am really not that concerned.

If I want to go examine some scholarly counterpoint about Witness Lee using that phrase, I know where an ...[text shortened]... or Ron Rhodes.

A vine true with its branches and its fruit can be thought of as one ORGANISM.

@Ghost-of-a-Duke

Bottom line - John 15 speaks of the true vine, the abiding branches, and the produced fruit.

For Lee to express this as "the organism of the Triune God Himself" IMO has valid. The vine, the branches, the fruit produced can be thought of as ONE ORGANISM.

The problem some religious or non-religious people would have with this is probably due to them ONLY regarding God as OBJECTIVE - out there, up there, over there, above, separated.

It is under appreciated that God longs to JOIN with man as a united organic incorporation and union.

Even the very command "Abide in Me and I in you" is unique. It is a two way command -

You allow abide in Me to and as a result I will live out from within you and abide in you. You live in Me and I will live in you.

The two abiding lives are really one organism as such.

Now the atheist doesn't care at all about "abiding in" Jesus the Son of God.

To him there is no God and certainly no need to abide in God. Much less he sees a need for God to live in him.

Some traditional religious folks might react " What in the world is this? I get saved and have my ticket to a happy place called Heaven. God is there. Me and God will always be apart even though in each other's company in a happy place called Heaven."

Back to the pure Gospel - "Abide in Me and I in you" is about an incorporation of the eternal uncreated God with the created saved and redeemed believers to be a united organic mingling, if you will.

In short it is an enlargement of what Jesus Christ is - God and man mingled together.

@sonship said
Now the atheist doesn't care at all about "abiding in" Jesus the Son of God.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
I care about honesty.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
I find your lack of honesty disappointing. I will move on.

@sonship...Here you go...

Why won’t you state before the Lord Jesus Christ that you HAD previously heard of the phrase “the organism of the triune God” ?

Tumbleweed...

@Ghost-of-a-Duke

Tumbleweed...

@sonship said
@Ghost-of-a-Duke

Tumbleweed...

And its cheap crap like that written by you which influences me not to read your posts with carefulness sometimes.

You write a lot of stupid stuff sometimes not worthy of much attention.

Tumbleweed...

@Ghost-of-a-Duke

Sigh. How long are you going to beat this drum?

Jesus said let your yes be yes and your no be no.
And God is my witness to everything I think, say, do.

I first heard the phrase "organism of the Triune God" in Boston in 1974.
I first heard the phrase "organism of the Triune God" in Boston in 1974
I first heard the phrase "organism of the Triune God" in Boston in 1974.
I first heard the phrase "organism of the Triune God" in Boston in 1974.

Oh, did I mention that I FIRST HEARD THE PHRASE ORGANISM OF THE TRIUNE GOD IN BOSTON IN 1974 ?

The speaker - William Mallon
The location - I think it was at Wellesley College.

@sonship said
@Ghost-of-a-Duke

Sigh. How long are you going to beat this drum?